A license for your house??

[looneybin]

Just when you thought it couldn't get any stranger for us.
check out the hidden requirements of the "cap-n-steal"
If this is too PARF'y, please move as req'd.

A License Required for your HOUSE?

If you own your home you really need to check this out. At the end of this email is the Google link to verify. If the country thinks the housing market is depressed now, wait until everyone sees this. No one will be buying homes in the future.

We encourage you to read the provisions of the Cap and Trade Bill that has passed the House of Representatives and are being considered by the Senate. We are ready to join the next march on Washington ! This Congress and their "experts" are truly out to destroy the middle class of the U.S.A.

A License will be required for your house...no longer just for cars and mobile homes....Thinking about selling your house? Take a look at H.R. 2454 (Cap and Trade bill). This is unbelievable! Home owners take note and tell your friends and relatives who are home owners!

Beginning one year after enactment of the Cap and Trade Act, you won't be able to sell your home unless you retrofit it to comply with the energy and water efficiency standards of this "Cap & Trade" bill, passed by the House of Representatives. If it is also passed by the Senate, it will be the largest tax increase any of us has ever experienced.

The Congressional Budget Office (supposedly non-partisan) estimates that in just a few years the average cost to every family of four will be $6,800 per year. No one is excluded. However, once the lower classes feel the pinch in their wallets, you can be sure that these voters will get a tax refund (even if they pay no taxes at all) to offset this new cost. Thus, you Mr. And Mrs. Middle Class have to pay even more since additional tax dollars will be needed to bail out everyone else..

But wait. This awful bill (that no one in Congress has actually read) has many more surprises in it. Probably the worst one is this: A year from now you won't be able to sell your house without some bureaucrat's OK. Yes, you read that right.

The caveat (there always is a caveat) is that if you have enough money to make required major upgrades to your home, then you can sell it. But, if not, then forget it. Even pre-fabricated homes ("mobile homes") are included. In effect, this bill prevents you from selling your home without the permission of the EPA administrator.

To get this permission, you will have to have the energy efficiency of your home measured. Then the government will tell you what your new energy efficiency requirement is and you will be required to make modifications to your home under the retrofit provisions of this Act, to comply with the new energy and water efficiency requirements.

Then you will have to get your home measured again and get a license (called a "label" in the Act) that must be posted on your property to show what your efficiency rating is; sort of like the Energy Star efficiency rating label on your refrigerator or air conditioner. If you don't get a high enough rating, you can't sell.

And, the EPA administrator is authorized to raise the standards every year, even above the automatic energy efficiency increases built into the Act. The EPA administrator, appointed by the President, will run the Cap & Trade program (AKA the "American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009") and is authorized to make any future changes to the regulations and standards he/she alone determines to be in the government's best interest. Requirements are set low initially so the bill will pass Congress. Then the Administrator can set new standards every year.

The Act itself contains annual required increases in energy efficiency for private and commercial residences and buildings. However, the EPA administrator can set higher standards at any time. Sect. 202 - Building Retrofit Program mandates a national retrofit program to increase the energy efficiency of all existing homes across America.

Beginning one year after enactment of the Act, you won't be able to sell your home unless you retrofit it to comply with its energy and water efficiency standards. You had better sell soon, because the standards will be raised each year and will be really hard (expen$ive) to meet in a few years. Oh, goody!

The Act allows the government to give you a grant of several thousand dollars to comply with the retrofit program requirements IF you meet certain energy efficiency levels. But, wait, the State can set additional requirements on who qualifies to receive the grants. You should expect requirements such as "can't have an income of more than $50K per year", "home selling price can't be more than $125K", or anything else to target the upper middle class (that includes YOU?) and prevent you from qualifying for the grants.

Most of us won't get a dime and will have to pay the entire cost of the retrofit out of our own pockets. More transfer of wealth, more "change you can believe in." Sect. 204 - Building Energy Performance Labeling Program establishes a labeling program that for each individual residence will identify the achieved energy efficiency performance for "at least 90 percent of the residential market within 5 years after the date of the enactment of this Act."

This means that within 5 years 90% of all residential homes in the U.S. must be measured and labeled. The EPA administrator will get $50M each year to enforce the labeling program. The Secretary of the Department of Energy will get an additional $20M each year to help the EPA. Some of this money will, of course, be spent on coming up with tougher standards each year...

Oh, the label will be like a license for your car. You will be required to post the label in a conspicuous location in your home and will not be allowed to sell your home without having this label. And, just like your car license, you will probably be required to get a new label every so often - maybe every year.

But, the government estimates the cost of measuring the energy efficiency of your home should only cost about $200 each time. Remember what they said about the auto smog inspections when they first started: that in California? It would only cost $15. That was when the program started. Now the cost is about $50 for the inspection and certificate.

Expect the same from the home labeling program. Sect. 304 - Greater Energy Efficiency in Building Codes establishes new energy efficiency guidelines for the National Building Code and mandates at 304(d) that one year after enactment of this Act, all state and local jurisdictions must adopt the National Building Code energy efficiency provisions or must obtain a certification from the federal government that their state and/or local codes have been brought into full compliance with the National Building Code energy efficiency standards.

CHECK OUT a few of the sites;

Cap and Trade: A License Required for your Home http://www.nachi. org/forum/ f14/cap-and- trade-license- required- your-home- 44750/

HR2454 American Clean Energy & Security Act: http://www.govtrack .us/congress/ bill.xpd? bill=h111- 2454

Cap & Trade A license required for your home: http://www.prisonpl anet.com/ cap-and-trade- a-license- required- for-your- home.html

Cap and trade is a license to cheat and steal:
http://www.sfexamin er.com/opinion/ columns/oped_ contributors/ Cap-and-trade- is-a-license- to-cheat- and-steal- 45371937. html
Cap and Trade: A License Required for your Home: http://www.freerepu blic.com/ focus/news/ 2393940/posts

Thinking about selling you House? Look at HR 2454:

http://www.federalo bserver.com/ 2009/10/01/ thinking- about-selling- your-house- a-look-at- h-r-2454- cap-and-trade- bill/

Google search?hl= en&source=hp&ie=ISO-8859- 1&q=A+License+ required+ for+your+ home-+Cap+ and+Trade&btnG=Google+ Search

[pwd72s]

So much for the American dream...

[Schrup]

I wonder if this will have any affect on the arson rate in about 7 or 8 years. I'm sure the insurance companies will have their hands deep in this cookie jar. I can see the means for the government to start taking peoples homes for non-compliance.

[widgeon13]

Originally Posted by Schrup

I wonder if this will have any affect on the arson rate in about 7 or 8 years. I'm sure the insurance companies will have their hands deep in this cookie jar. I can see the means for the government to start taking peoples homes for non-compliance.

My thoughts exactly, lightning strikes will be going up dramatically if this is passed. This stuff is just BS, just ******* BS!

[Tobra]

Arson was the first thing that popped into my head too. What does that mean if the first thing pops into the average person's head is to set their house alight?

[tabs]

Well this is just more proof of my claim that the Progressives agenda is to BK or DESTROY the American Middle Class. Home ownership will be a thing of the past, home values will go skyhigh except for the junkers and you won't be able to give those away. . People will be passing down their homes from generation to generation as they do in Europe. This will also encourage people to stay in one location for generation after generation..so moving to opportunity and all those good things like innovation are gona be on life support..notice I didn't say dead.

In time most people will be renting from the government...and then who cares if you burn the place down or trash it..

What makes me laugh is that the government eventually is going to pass so many regulations and taxes that it is going to collapse itself under its own weigh. When there are so many regulations at some point people stop trying to comply and just say fk it...and walk away...

Perhaps that is why the alcholism rate is so high in Russia..when you got nothin and no matter how hard you work or try and save you still get nothin...you show up to work to just show up and collect your subsistence wages and you do nothin but make a show of working..eventually guess what...the enterprise you are involved in just colapses as no one is doing anything but moving paper to the toilette.

[Superman]

Yeah that's right. The majority of persons in Congress are working toward the goal of destroying the United States of America. Does that make sense to you guys? Do you understand how you sound when you report your belief that the majority of Congress is trying to destroy the nation? Is the Easter Bunny coming to your house on Sunday morning? Were you abducted by aliens recently? How often do you hear the Black Helicopters?

This thread needs to be moved to where it belongs. The Looney Bin.

[crustychief]

The voice of reason.

[Rikao4]

come on Supe..
Unions started out doing & meaning good..
IMO..
their like a bad flu shot..
your get a little bit of the 'bug'
only to find..
they have moved in for good..
and now they want the body..

C&T will be like that..
mean well..& end with ..
so sorry..& oops

Rika

[Gene-o]

FWIW Snopes says no...

snopes.com: Cap and Trade Energy Bill

[RWebb]

the first thing that SHOULD pop into your head is that it was posted by a guy who calls himself Looneybin

2nd thing should have been - "does this make sense?"

[Scuba Steve]

Originally Posted by Gene-o

FWIW Snopes says no...

snopes.com: Cap and Trade Energy Bill

That's what my instinct was too - check Snopes before reading all that.

[ckissick]

Originally Posted by RWebb

the first thing that SHOULD pop into your head is that it was posted by a guy who calls himself Looneybin

2nd thing should have been - "does this make sense?"

This may be a false story, but the 2nd litmus test that you mention never stopped the governemnt before.

[jyl]

PolitiFact | Chain e-mail claims cap-and-trade will require home retrofits, license before sale

Hey, OP - why is it that it took me 15 seconds to figure out that the email in your post is bullcrap, but you didn't figure it out before posting? Don't you have a problem with coming here and posting false crap?

[Jim Richards]

Oh come on John! You need to drink the Faux News-supplied cool-aid, and get on all the party-of-hate spam mail lists so you can satisfy your paranoid delusions and think like our "oracle." Then you can fixate on all the dreadful unintended consequences of the fairy tales becoming true. Finally, spend most of your time on PARF, "forget" where to post political BS threads (or rudely tee them up here and let the mods move them eventually), and spend hours of every day working on your bomb shelter/zombie bunker.

Either that, or you could be working on the engine swap for your vanagon and posting pics for us to see and marvel at. BTW, how's it coming along?

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by Gene-o

FWIW Snopes says no...

snopes.com: Cap and Trade Energy Bill

Before you really start to believe Snopes, its owned and run by West Coast Liberals, who are pushing the kook aid agenda... They are NOT unbiased.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by looneybin

Just when you thought it couldn't get any stranger for us.

I don't think there is any limit to the strangeness of internet message board whackos. Nice try though.

[Jim Richards]

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

Before you really start to believe Snopes, its owned and run by West Coast Liberals, who are pushing the kook aid agenda... They are NOT unbiased.

sure - sure

[WolfeMacleod]

Regardless of whether this is true or not, her'es a though for you...

the word "Progress" basically means "To move forward, advance," etc... wihch is exactly what we should be doing.

now think...


con
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 /kɒn/ Show Spelled[kon] Show IPA
–adverb
1.
against a proposition, opinion, etc.: arguments pro and con.
–noun
2.
the argument, position, arguer, or voter against something.




What, exactly, does the word "Congress" really mean?