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Army drops bayonets, busts abs in training revamp

Army drops bayonets, busts abs in training revamp - Yahoo! News

FORT JACKSON, S.C. – New soldiers are grunting through the kind of stretches and twists found in "ab blaster" classes at suburban gyms as the Army revamps its basic training regimen for the first time in three decades.

Heeding the advice of Iraq and Afghanistan combat veterans, commanders are dropping five-mile runs and bayonet drills in favor of zigzag sprints and exercises that hone core muscles. Battlefield sergeants say that's the kind of fitness needed to dodge across alleys, walk patrol with heavy packs and body armor or haul a buddy out of a burning vehicle.

Trainers also want to toughen recruits who are often more familiar with Facebook than fistfights.

"Soldiers need to be able to move quickly under load, to be mobile under load, with your body armor, your weapons and your helmet, in a stressful situation," said Frank Palkoska, head of the Army's Fitness School at Fort Jackson, which has worked several years on overhauling the regime.

"We geared all of our calisthenics, all of our running movements, all of our warrior skills, so soldiers can become stronger, more powerful and more speed driven," Palkoska said. The exercises are part of the first major overhaul in Army basic fitness training since men and women began training together in 1980, he said.

The new plan is being expanded this month at the Army's four other basic training installations — Fort Leonard Wood, Mo., Fort Sill, Okla., Fort Benning, Ga., and Fort Knox, Ky.

Drill sergeants with experience in the current wars are credited with urging the Army to change training, in particular to build up core muscle strength. One of them is 1st Sgt. Michael Todd, a veteran of seven deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan.

On a recent training day Todd was spinning recruits around to give them the feel of rolling out of a tumbled Humvee. Then he tossed on the ground pugil sticks made of plastic pipe and foam, forcing trainees to crawl for their weapons before they pounded away on each other.

"They have to understand hand-to-hand combat, to use something other than their weapon, a piece of wood, a knife, anything they can pick up," Todd said.

The new training also uses "more calisthenics to build core body power, strength and agility," Palkoska said in an office bedecked with 60-year-old black and white photos of World War II-era mass exercise drills. Over the 10 weeks of basic, a strict schedule of exercises is done on a varied sequence of days so muscles rest, recover and strengthen.

Another aim is to toughen recruits from a more obese and sedentary generation, trainers said.

Many recruits didn't have physical education in elementary, middle or high school and therefore tend to lack bone and muscle strength. When they ditch diets replete with soda and fast food for healthier meals and physical training, they drop excess weight and build stronger muscles and denser bones, Palkoska said.

Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling of the Army's Training and Doctrine Command, the three-star general in charge of revamping all aspects of initial training, said his overall goal is to drop outmoded drills and focus on what soldiers need today and in the future.

Bayonet drills had continued for decades, even though soldiers no longer carry the blades on their automatic rifles. Hertling ordered the drills dropped.

"We have to make the training relevant to the conditions on the modern battlefield," Hertling said during a visit to Fort Jackson in January.

The general said the current generation has computer skills and a knowledge base vital to a modern fighting force. He foresees soldiers using specially equipped cell phones to retrieve information on the battlefield to help repair a truck or carry out an emergency lifesaving medical technique.

But they need to learn how to fight.

"Most of these soldiers have never been in a fistfight or any kind of a physical confrontation. They are stunned when they get smacked in the face," said Capt. Scott Sewell, overseeing almost 190 trainees in their third week of training. "We are trying to get them to act, to think like warriors."

For hours, Sewell and his drill sergeants urge on helmeted trainees as they whale away at each other with pugil sticks, landing head and body blows until one falls flat on the ground. As a victor slams away at his flattened foe, a drill sergeant whistles the fight to a halt.

"This is the funnest day I've had since I've been here!" said 21-year-old Pvt. Brendon Rhyne, of Rutherford County, N.C., after being beaten to the ground. "It makes you physically tough. Builds you up on the insides mentally, too."

The Marine Corps is also applying war lessons to its physical training, adopting a new combat fitness test that replicates the rigor of combat. The test, which is required once a year, has Marines running sprints, lifting 30-pound ammunition cans over their heads for a couple of minutes and completing a 300-yard obstacle course that includes carrying a mock wounded Marine and throwing a mock grenade.

Capt. Kenny Fleming, a 10-year-Army veteran looking after a group of Fort Jackson trainees, said men and women learn exercises that prepare them to do something on the battlefield such as throw a grenade, or lunge and pick a buddy off the ground. Experience in Iraq has shown that women need the same skills because they come under fire, too, even if they are formally barred from combat roles.

"All their exercises are related to something they will do out in the field," Fleming said, pointing out "back bridge" exercises designed to hone abdominal muscles where soldiers lift hips and one leg off the ground and hold it steady.

"This will help their core muscles, which they could use when they stabilize their body for shooting their weapon, or any kind of lifting, pulling, or something like grabbing a buddy out of a tank hatch," Fleming said.

Fleming said those who had some sort of sports in high school can easily pick up on the training, while those who didn't have to be brought along. One hefty soldier in a recent company he trained dropped 45 pounds and learned to blast out 100 push-ups and 70 sit-ups, he said.

"We just have to take the soldier who's used to sitting on the couch playing video games and get them out there to do it," Fleming said.

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Associated Press writer Kevin Maurer contributed to this report from Wilmington, N.C

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Great, now what am i going to do with that Bayonet Lug on my uber evil black rifle?
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Umm, bayonets have been used several times since the 2003 war began. By several allied nations.

This is a really stupid idea. Plus, bayonet training is really cool!
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I sent this to my gym's blog yesterday for reposting. Don't let the headline fool you. You have got to think those that go into battle with a bayonet are trained to use them.

Otherwise, they are aiming for an overall increase in fitness.

All good things:

"They have to understand hand-to-hand combat, to use something other than their weapon, a piece of wood, a knife, anything they can pick up," Todd said.

The new training also uses "more calisthenics to build core body power, strength and agility," Palkoska said in an office bedecked with 60-year-old black and white photos of World War II-era mass exercise drills. Over the 10 weeks of basic, a strict schedule of exercises is done on a varied sequence of days so muscles rest, recover and strengthen..."
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This is really great. It's great to hear that the military is thinking about the changing environment and adjusting to it. It sounds like this will benefit the folks that go through it. I don't envy the guys that have to train these folks these days. When I was young, I was never in the house if the weather was even remotely decent, but these days, I hardly ever see kids outside playing.
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Umm, bayonets have been used several times since the 2003 war began. By several allied nations.

This is a really stupid idea. Plus, bayonet training is really cool!
+1204, bayonet training when done right is a total body workout. Instead of dropping it, they should add more.
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I don't understand... they seem to imply that the new recruits are soft and need some toughening up. I thought all those kids running around with the barbed-wire tattoos and skull decals on their cars meant that they were a tough crowd. That's not the case?
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I agree with HHI, bayonet training should be expanded. Not only will it absolutely save your life, but it's a great work out. And a hell of a lot of fun!
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Despite expanding basic training, there is still limited time to teach these kids the things they need to be successful in the Army. I thought it was a great article that demonstrates the mental flexibility of our military leaders to look at ways to better prepare these Soldiers for what they are going to face in the near future. bayonet training was good, but the pugil sticks and combatives with the focus on core body strength is excellent. They also spend a lot more time in the field and wearing body armor. All the kinds of things they need to survive.
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You know, they seemed to have plenty of time to teach us to use a bayonet and our training was only 13 weeks in length. It was only 2 days of training (with other hand to hand skills also being taught- actual bayonet training was less than a day)

Honestly, bayonet training is IMO critical for infantrymen (I was an infantryman, for the record). Sometimes you do close with the enemy. Sometimes your weapon does malfunction or run dry. Sometimes you don't have the time to reload or clear a malfunction. Sometimes, the only thing between you and getting captured and having your living head sawn off like Nick Berg is this:



To me- this is an extremely stupid idea. Almost as dumb as the USAF removing guns from it's fighters in the 60s because they were "obsolete and took the focus off of 'important' training."

Honestly, i think today's military is a joke compared to the standards and training levels when i was in. I still respect them, but the PT was WAAAAAY harder when i was in. The 292 i scored on the APFT when i was in (i was in the top 1% in my Bn), by today's standards, would work out to about a 375 . (300 is max score for the APFT) I am sure i could still score a 270+ today, at age 40, with bad knees and six herniated discs.

That's how easy the new test is.

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The simple fact is todays soldier needs to be more fit -getting rid of bayonet training seems odd to me given the nature of todays combat. but the general need for better fitness looks to be a given. I gotta think that a lot of the raw material coming into the service these days will need some work on their fitness.
Hell most every recruit I ever knew needed some fine tuning.



When I see how heavily packed troops are today compared to Nam when our guys were already carrying brutal loads -ya got to wonder how efficient todays infantry is..as our opposition going forward travels light as did the VC and North Vietnam's regulars. So our people better be fit............................................... ...............

and (here comes trouble)in hard line combat units Male.

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If they really want better fitness they should STOP lowering the standards.

Just a suggestion.

I agree 10000000000% that women have absolutely no place in the Infantry, especially in close combat.
And doubly so for gays.

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I see it as the military adapting to change. Not a bad thing.

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