The new Mustang V6 with 305 HP looks very interesting, I have not driven one yet.

Wouln't the ZR-1 be comparable to the Porsche GT-2? Top of the line compared to top of the line? Or for that matter compare the ZR-1 to the Carrera GT! Or the 918 spyder!
Yea, the weight of the new P cars is obsene IMO. But keep in mind that historicly street Porsches have always had lots of creature comforts, that can be stripped off!

Wait... what? Published weight of the Camry Hybrid is 3,680lbs...
An '84 Targa weighs what? 2,800lbs?

They forgot the most important test to me: the "My checkbook" category. Point to Porsche.

Why did they compare it to a Turbo anyways? Seems to be a different market as the Turbo has been more of a Grand Touring car for a long time now. Wouldn't a GT3 be closer to the same market?

I also wondered why they didn't test the turbo with PDK. It is supposed to be a bit faster than the manual.

Amen!

Just the other day I swapped drives with a co-worker - my 88 with 160K miles with his 95 Vette with 70K miles. His vette was clearly better at everything objective - it accelerated faster, had more torque, braked harder, got higher lateral g's, didn't want to swap ends with dropped throttle.
OTOH, dead steering with a weird ratio, and overall chassis feel just wasn't very good for my taste. I'll take the 911 every time, even if it's slower.

Of course, 95 vettes are 1/2 the cost of a 911 to buy and probably 1/4 the cost to maintain ... and the drivetrain is a pleasure to use, even if it's a very different beast from a 911.

I'd have liked to see a GT-3 in that comparison. Not that it matters - I cannot imagine or afford paying even $50K for a car. Even less taking said car on a track, especially with my skill level ...

which car would you rather sit in? the intangables are all porsche. the difference between 3.5 and 4.0 secods 0-60 or top speed of 180 vs 200 is ridiculous to me. That isnt what makes a great car.

What is interesting to me is that both the Corvette and the 911 series have stayed locked into their format for so long. Yeah, there was that thing called a Carrera GT that had 10 cylinders. If GM mad the Corvette they are capable of (mid engine), the contest would take on new dimensions.

Well, maybe so, maybe not. They get a lot of performance out of a front engine/rear trans car as do others. but, as long as a Corvette is what we see today, I'll never pine for one.

I swapped my lighten"d 911 with my friends ZR1 coming back from a round of golf a few months ago.
Holy crap is that thing fast.It left me grinning ear to ear and wondering how long I would posses my license for if I owned one.
I arrived back at my place a long time before he pulled up in my Porsche. He got out of my 911 grinning ear to ear ranting a raving about what it felt like to "feel " a car and have to pay so much attention to what you are doing when going fast.

Steve

And there is the real difference. And that's one of the main reasons I'm not so infatuated with my '88 Carrera. You just don't move from a '71 S cafe racer to a 2800 lb. car and not notice.

Good God, can you imagine what a VERY lightened Z06 would feel like? An average guy would think he found a 70's CanAm McLaren.

They addressed that in the article: they specifically requested the 6-speed because of it's fun factor, knowing they'd be giving up a few tenths at the track.

I can't imagine what the GT-R forums must be like over this article.

A good friend of mine has a Viper. I've driven it several times. It's fun and very cool to drive. The driving impression can only be described as bland. Sure it has TORQUE up the yingyang, but response? Yea it corners at .9 g, but you don't feel connected to the road. Up to 90 mph I'll take my warmed over '71 911 any day. Above that the Viper is unreal. At 120 it'll slam you back in the seat.

Can't imagine why this statement would be needed for the record. GM and Ford are building better cars than ever...and beginning to reliably out-perform our Japanese and European bretheren. And doing it here in the US of A.

For the record, GM (allegedly) paid back all of the bail-out cash and is beginning to thrive on it's own. Leaner and meaner. I drove a Cadillac CTS last week and was stunned by how good it was. Statements like the one above reek of unfounded arrogance in this day and age (no disrespect intended). The US car industry is again building cars we can be proud of. I for one, would happily buy a GM or Ford product (recently did, in fact) and be proud of my decision.

Sheesh...Porsche is part of VW now. Do you really expect a mega-conglomerate to continue the passion and race-bred lineage that made Porsche great? It's a new world fellas, and I am thrilled to see what's coming out of Detroit these days.

Well put Mike.

Not even close...GM was given over $60 Billion in bail out cash, around $6 Billion of that was officially a "loan". It's the loan the TV ads brag about paying back.

I'll make a deal...you give me 60 thou...I'll pay you back 6 thou and call it even. Sound fair? Not to worry, the taxpayers will make up the difference...

Fight socialism. Buy a Ford. :D

Respectully....is there another word of my post that you disagree with? I believe there's another thread in PARF to argue the viability of the repayment. I added the word "allegedly" to that statement, but I don't believe it is relevant to this discussion.

I'd happily buy a GM product, regardless of the aforementioned debate...long before I'd buy a Toyota or VW. As they continue to get better, the likes of Porsche and BMW had better have a plan to stay relevant in this country at least.

My 2010 Ford F-150 King Ranch impresses me more every time I drive it.....for the record.

Mike, that was the only line I disagreed with. No debate, fact. GM has "paid back" only a small portion, a "loan" has been paid back. Surprised you didn't know that.

Agree with you that Detroit makes some attractive products these days...

You're correct, I must have read the tag on the door incorrectly. :(

Honestly, I haven't taken the time to research the issue. To me, it doesn't really matter. It's a US auto company that is finally getting it right in terms of product quality and performance.

I bought a Ford for a number of reasons....I believe you did too, Paul....but GM is right there and, together, we're looking at the one-two punch necessary to propel the US auto industry back into the limelite. Our economy will only benefit as a result. All good reasons to celebrate something that is long overdue.

The OP thought it was "sad" that Corvette outperforms the new 911 Turbo (VW). I have to disagree. I am thrilled. Not sure why others struggle with that.