Finished Rough Draft

Jagshund · 06-01-2010, 07:22 PM

397 pages. Since it is about as long as a thesis, I will now demand to be called "Doktor" around here. Respect!

Is this site dropping letters for anyone else? It's being very weird. Sometimes it will cut entire words sometimes it won't space. Irregular, so I don't think it is hardware related, and it's not happening on other similar sites. Example: this message has taken me six mmutes to compose due to missing characters.

RWebb · RWebb's Garage

it's been veeeery slooooow recently

what is the topic of your paper?

Racerbvd · Racerbvd's Garage

When the batteries in my key board get weak, mine misses letters..

Jagshund · 06-01-2010, 07:33 PM

A slightly maladjusted youth decides to make his living being a narc (not a cop, just a snitch who also conducts buy-walks and the like). The book follows three bad days of deals, slightly crooked cops, a Robert Johnson-loving homosexual meth head (who also works for the po-po) and whores.

Most snitches and CIs do so to work off charges and keep things balanced with the police. This guy started doing it just so he couild meet people and screw them over. He also tries to emmulate Jim Morrison in looks and life- which is kind of like Elvis joining the War on Drugs(tm), I suppose . . . this keyboard thing is driving me crazy. I can't take it tonight.

ODDJOB UNO · ODDJOB UNO's Garage

when the hamsters and squirrels stop running and demand food...................mine runs very slow also.

masraum · 06-01-2010, 07:39 PM

you're not drinking enough, or maybe too much.

nynor · 06-01-2010, 07:40 PM

is that 397 pages single or double spaced.

herr_oberst · 06-01-2010, 07:52 PM

Hats off to you Cayman.
I once read 397 words in one sitting.

Thought my brain was going to seize.

Jagshund · 06-02-2010, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by nynor

is that 397 pages single or double spaced.

Line spacing is set at 1.5.

Chas White · 06-02-2010, 01:36 PM

"A slightly maladjusted youth decides to make his living being a narc (not a cop, just a snitch who also conducts buy-walks and the like). The book follows three bad days of deals, slightly crooked cops, a Robert Johnson-loving homosexual meth head (who also works for the po-po) and whores.

Most snitches and CIs do so to work off charges and keep things balanced with the police. This guy started doing it just so he couild meet people and screw them over. He also tries to emmulate Jim Morrison in looks and life- which is kind of like Elvis joining the War on Drugs..."

So... why do we like him?

Jagshund · 06-06-2010, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chas White

So... why do we like him?

Excellent question. There is redemption in the character, but it is not such that leads him to become a better person by normal standards . . . which begs me to consider whether or not it can really be considered redemption . . .

It's all relative, I suppose.

ckissick · 06-06-2010, 05:39 PM

Who says you have to like the main character? Okay, everyone says that. But it's not true.

I just finished a book called "Olive Kitteridge", by Elizabeth Strout. It's one of those stories about the human condition, and so well done it won the Pulitzer Prize. Olive Kitteridge , the character, is not nice and not very likeable. But she's fascinating.

So, Scott, are you going to try and get the book published? I wish you luck. I'm currently trying to find an agent for either of two books I've written, but it seems crickets were invented soley as a response to query letters.

EarlyPorsche · 06-06-2010, 06:42 PM

Congrats! Is this something that you have a publisher for or are you doing this for the family?

Chas White · 06-09-2010, 07:40 PM

"not such that leads him to become a better person by normal standards."

Most interesting characters are a bit abnormal. Some more than a bit. You have to care enough about them to keep reading, tho. Alex, in Clockwork Orange is only the first that springs to mind.
You haven't said anything, so I'm going to assume you have not found a publisher as yet. Do you intend to self-publish? 'Course, do that and you're on your own, sales-wise.
Charlie

Jagshund · 06-09-2010, 09:08 PM

Forgive my long response. Cue the violin.

I have to give a bit of background to explain what I'm going to do with the manuscript and why. I have a stack of scripts that is higher than my knees- and I'm 5'9ish- that I have tried to push for years to no avail. Five of them are 'feature length' films, ~22 are pilots for television shows and 12 are episodes of a dark comedy television show called Shmyle for Tyranny. A little over four years ago , a PR firm that was pushing Nashville film projects picked up on my work and had me do a spec job for a sitcom based on a book written in regards to quotes from men.

The book had been self published but was eventully picked up by a publisher and sales increased to a point where a show became obvious; the script was polished and pitched to a b*** at ABC and changed about 10-11 times before she finally decided that she liked it. Three weeks later the PR firm was told that ABC was passing on the rights to the book (meaning they'd have to change the name of the show) but liked the script, causing the author to declare that since the script was written with characters whose psychological makeups had been influenced by her book (I never even read her book, but there was some sort of legal tie between the two projects), she owned the right to the script and the book. After two or three months of legal squabbles, ABC decided they wanted nothing to do with the author or the script so it was tossed. I was the sole writer listed as well as co-creator- simply seeing pilot filmed would have brought me tremendous satisfaction. Anyway, this is the story of my life. I have stories upon stories of situations like this- like when John Agar (Sands of Iwo Jima, She Wore a Yellow Ribbon) agreed in principle to attach himself to one of my scripts which, in my opinion, would have taken him back to respectability (some of his late movies were questionable). He died less than four months later.

As I mentioned, I wrote an entire 12 episode Britcom and sent the pilot to the BBC's Writer's Room. The script was returned with a form rejection letter; the returned package is still sitting in the same place in the study where I launched it after realizing that I'd sent 32 pieces of paper across the friggin' Atlantic Ocean only to have it returned unread.

I have many more that I won't bore you with. I'm getting to a point somewhere. Bare whip me.

I've been writing solidly for thirteen years now and everyone has always said how they have something definite . . . may be able to pass it to so-and-so . . . know an agent who can work with me . . . have a brother working for CAA. After a while I decided nothing was going to happen with any of it, so I started editing it even more and going through work I'd thought was finished years earlier. I ended up working for the PR firm as their head of marketing and content creation. In the last 18 months I decided that I wanted to do what I want to do, something challenging . . . creative work that's not selling a dozen different companies or products but rather working to build a global brand. That required throttling back on the PR work as I search for the right company to join. In the meantime, I picked back up on the book based on three scripts which were based on some true events and a lot of BS. I had never finished a book before (writing, not reading )and so have resolved myself to finishing it to a point where I would feel comfortable allowing another human to read it. However, reaching that point is no guarantee that I will actually allow anyone else to sneak a peek.

In short, I have quit writing with the idea of making money (and being published) in mind and begun to simply tell the stories I have to tell in whatever form they wish. In that light, my work will probably stay on the shelf until I die . . . perhaps one day the mass of paper will make its way out into the world, ending up on the doorstep of someone who has thousands of dead fish to wrap, finally serving a purpose.

Chas White · 06-10-2010, 09:16 AM

Craaap. Depressing, but thanks for the heartfelt and revealing reply. I hope things turn around for you soon. It must be frustrating to be that close, and then booted aside. I can see why you hung in for so long, though.

Jagshund · 06-11-2010, 04:43 PM

I actually think the failures have made my work better. Scripts I believed to be ready for filming have since been reexamined and revised extensively; whether or not the sessions actually improved the work is purely subjective but I'd like to think I have a bit of a clue in these matters.

Perhaps it's best that they sit on the shelf for a few more years as I continue taking renewed glances- by then they may be ready for the screen in someone else's opinion as well.