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aston@ultrasw.c 06-21-2010 03:07 PM

Porsher is faster ;-)

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EarlyPorsche 06-21-2010 03:10 PM

Do you guys really get "offended" and think that its a lack of "respect" to pronounce a family name in more modern-english-friendly manner? I realize society has gotten a little soft and easily offended because there was some PC craze a couple years back but I urge you to realize that we don't have to be easily offended.

This begs the question: how do you easily offended folk order food at a restaurant that has exotic dish titles? Don't tell me you try and pretend to speak the language of every nation at their respective restaurant in an effort to not offend.

Do you call your friend Juan - KHWUAN or just Juan?

I am rather indifferent but whenever I hear Porsha I think the person is trying to give me a history lesson. The vehicle has evolved, the brand has evolved, and frankly the name has evolved.

I prononce things in a way that makes all parties comfortable yet allowing them to still understand what I am saying in a coherent and proper manner. Porsha and Porsche both do the job so it boils down to a matter of preference but offense and respect are just silly ways of justifying your preference.

ckissick 06-21-2010 03:11 PM

Isn't this a moot point, since, as others have suggested, you pronounce that last syllable anyway? As as Canadian, you would say, "I have a Porsh, eh."

I can't say Porsh, because I was raised on Porsches (my dad was a Porsche dealer), and I took German in school. I was taught from a young age to say Porsch-ah, and to hate the Dodgers and Rams (when they were in LA). I guess I'm a pretentious, wine-drinking Niner fan.

silverc4s 06-21-2010 03:17 PM

If you say Porsch, then your 911 probably has pistons made by Mall...:D

EarlyPorsche 06-21-2010 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silverc4s (Post 5416064)
If you say Porsch, then your 911 probably has pistons made by Mall...:D

If you say PorshAH then your 911 probably has pistons made by MahLAH you mean.

kidrock 06-21-2010 03:23 PM

I can't believe anybody gives a flying feck either way. Anal much? :rolleyes:

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Canada Kev 06-21-2010 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckissick (Post 5416051)
Isn't this a moot point, since, as others have suggested, you pronounce that last syllable anyway? As as Canadian, you would say, "I have a Porsh, eh.".

I agree. It's just so difficult to say Porsh-ah, eh.

dicklague 06-21-2010 03:39 PM

to me, either way......

I also had to laugh last weekend when one of the SPEED announcers kept calling the Montreal circuit "CirQuee" Jacque Villeneuve . He said it with great pride like he was right. "Seaar Kee" is proper french....

jimbauman 06-21-2010 03:41 PM

THREE pages of this? Yikes! Well, as Winston Churchill once said, "Never before in the history of human endeavor, has so much been said about so little by so few!"

Sweeny Todd 06-21-2010 03:44 PM

I lived in Stuttgart for years. Used to speak pretty good German. Drove a few 944 Turbo Cup races - somebody had to be a back marker.

To my ear, it's neither Porsch, nor Porsch-Ah. It's more like Parszch eh. The eh is very de-emphasized, the sch has a definite z sound to it and I'd swear it sounds more like an 'a' than an 'oh'.

Of course as long as it's preceded with Mein, then who gives a crap...

H

rusnak 06-21-2010 04:11 PM

Spend some time in Boston. Trippy accent.

They say "pahk tha cah in tha sahd yahd".

"Which car?".

"Tha Pash-uh".

You'll be grateful for calling it a "Porsh-uh" after that.

JJ 911SC 06-21-2010 04:22 PM

Either way...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dicklague (Post 5416102)
to me, either way......

I ... Montreal circuit "CirQuee" Jacque Villeneuve . He said it with great pride like he was right. "Seaar Kee" is proper french....

... Missing an "s" as in Jacques Villeneuve... used to it by now :D:D:D

Rev-it 84 06-21-2010 04:26 PM

Next time you go to the strip club and Porsche Thunder-Bu_t gives you a dance, would you thank her by saying (Thanks Porsch)? Also if you spell check Porsch it asks you if you want yhe correct spelling Porsche.

JJ 911SC 06-21-2010 04:26 PM

It Stand For...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zippy_gg (Post 5415909)
My motorcycle is of the Bayerishe Motoren Werke brand, and while most call the manufacturer BWM I call my bike a "beemer" and that is different from the cars (Yes, BMW also makes cars! :D) called "Bimmer".
Now I think I'll go back and stare at the Porch in my driveway! :D

Bus, Metro or Walk :D:D:D

miketheautopartsguy 06-21-2010 04:48 PM

Great fun!!
 
Don't get to worked up about it! I think this is a fun thread! thanks for bringing it up!
Do you think Hyundia owners have the same discussions!!!! HA! HA! HA! I think its HUN-DAY!!!!!!

doublestuff 06-21-2010 05:00 PM

Not pretentious, proud
 
Quote:

What I can't understand is why people would purposely choose to mispronounce a name when they do know how to do it correctly?
Right on, Skinnerd!

I personally correct every single person that calls it Porsh. Everyone. I don't care, it's just wrong.

I wonder if the Lamborghini guys have this issue...

Supergas 06-21-2010 05:12 PM

TOMATOE...TOMATTO......Who cares, I'm American,Austrian... Nobody says my name right,not even the Austrians.

rusnak 06-21-2010 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rev-it 84 (Post 5416177)
Next time you go to the strip club and Porsche Thunder-Bu_t gives you a dance, would you thank her by saying (Thanks Porsch)? Also if you spell check Porsch it asks you if you want yhe correct spelling Porsche.

Does she have a younger sister named Amber Porchlight?

Les Paul 06-21-2010 05:21 PM

In the late 50's my dad bought a 54 Mercedes. And proceeded to call it a mursadeez. And would get weird about it when someone asked hiM about his mersaydeez. Then we had a Jag same pig headed answer. Then a Renalt. Not reynalt. 25 years of Porsche ownership later when someone asks "what kinda car is that" my reply is either a 356 or a 930. That leads to the next either they act like they have a clue look or ok dokey. If they do ask what brand is that I always say Poooorrrrssssshhhhhaaaa. And wink. The wemens laugh the guys, well they never ask.

Exotic118 06-21-2010 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doublestuff (Post 5416250)
Right on, Skinnerd!

I personally correct every single person that calls it Porsh. Everyone. I don't care, it's just wrong.

I wonder if the Lamborghini guys have this issue...

I don't think many Americans pronounce the Lambo models correctly, I know I didn't, but I do now. Countach, Murcielago, Gallardo, Reventón.

zippy_gg 06-21-2010 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supergas (Post 5416269)
TOMATOE...TOMATTO......Who cares, I'm American,Austrian... Nobody says my name right,not even the Austrians.

Oh come on...! Supergas is not THAT difficult to pronounce, even for a non-Austrian! :D

rusnak 06-21-2010 06:11 PM

...so what do you do if you call it a "Pee Car", and someone goes "why do you call it a Pee Car"?

Nine17 06-21-2010 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canuck_Targa (Post 5415685)
"I'm a pretentious knob and now pronounce the name correctly now".

Actually, this does seem a bit confrontational to those of us who have been using the correct pronunciation since we were children, and presumably neither pretentious nor knobs. Why not proudly wear a t-shirt that says, "I am no longer an ignoramus" and be proud of your new-found learning?

Aldo 06-21-2010 06:24 PM

"P-car". That's just stupid. How is that easier than saying Porsche?

jwetering 06-21-2010 06:44 PM

I used to be a bit hardcore about this, my first language is nederlandse. I kind of relented after I learned that even the odd german says porsh now and again. I say porsh once in a while too, like when I feel lazy. That said, to avoid saying it properly because you think it sounds wrong is just plain idiotic.

Trust me, this man does not speak for all Canadians.

R K T 06-21-2010 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine17 (Post 5416350)
Actually, this does seem a bit confrontational to those of us who have been using the correct pronunciation since we were children, and presumably neither pretentious nor knobs. Why not proudly wear a t-shirt that says, "I am no longer an ignoramus" and be proud of your new-found learning?

Bingo!

I guess I have always had RESPECT for the family that produced our beloved cars. With that respect I would not mispronounce their name.
There's correct and incorrect. Period. The defining line between the two has blurred because of lack of respect.

jwetering 06-21-2010 06:51 PM

Do you say chevrol-ay or chevro-lett? What's the difference?

rusnak 06-21-2010 06:54 PM

"why do I call it a "Pee Car?

well, that just Depends."

Canuck_Targa 06-21-2010 07:08 PM

Well I think I have been converted, I now can pronounce it correctly without feeling pretentious or a knob but simply because it is the correct way of pronouncing it.
Lots of great comments as always.

I especially loved the sniper in the background taking a shot at the name of the city I live in, Classic.

vash 06-21-2010 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canuck_Targa (Post 5416462)
Well I think I have been converted, I now can pronounce it correctly without feeling pretentious or a knob but simply because it is the correct way of pronouncing it.
Lots of great comments as always.

I especially loved the sniper in the background taking a shot at the name of the city I live in, Classic.

ok, now take Celine Dion back and we'll call it "good"!

jwetering 06-21-2010 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vash (Post 5416480)
ok, now take Celine Dion back and we'll call it "good"!

hehe

No way. You were the last ones to touch her. She's yours now!:D

wwest 06-21-2010 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwetering (Post 5416431)
Do you say chevrol-ay or chevro-lett? What's the difference?

None of the above...it's a CHEVY..!

Canuck_Targa 06-21-2010 07:43 PM

Sorry, Keanu Reeves and Justin Bieber are officially yours now also.

rattlsnak 06-21-2010 08:15 PM

IMHO when someone says it "wrong" it automatically discredits you to the "i dont have one" crowd. Over the years, i have found that if you own one, you say it correct, and if you dont, you say it wrong.. holds true 99% of the time..

Geronimo '74 06-21-2010 08:47 PM

Porsche 1 syllable, and Germany isn't that far away either. Just because that is the way it is pronounced where I live.
I think it is silly trying to pronounce everthing the same as in the land of origin.
In English we say "Germany" too and not "Deutschland" so why wouldn't it be ok to say "Porsche" instead of "Porscha"???....

Makes no difference to me. All good.

Does it sound more European when you guys say "Nikee"??
Because I have never heard anybody say it like that over here, we all say "Nike"
(except for the bozos that think they're cool, they do the marketing thing and say "Nikee"....)
(in Greek it would more like "Nee keh" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nike_(mythology))

Geronimo '74 06-21-2010 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dienstuhr (Post 5415770)
Try saying "Porsh-uh" if it feels better...

or perhaps "Porsh-eh"???

Cheers

d.

Either one of those would be more correct than "Porscha"...




Quote:

Originally Posted by EarlyPorsche (Post 5416049)
Do you guys really get "offended" and think that its a lack of "respect" to pronounce a family name in more modern-english-friendly manner? I realize society has gotten a little soft and easily offended because there was some PC craze a couple years back but I urge you to realize that we don't have to be easily offended.

This begs the question: how do you easily offended folk order food at a restaurant that has exotic dish titles? Don't tell me you try and pretend to speak the language of every nation at their respective restaurant in an effort to not offend.

Do you call your friend Juan - KHWUAN or just Juan?

I am rather indifferent but whenever I hear Porsha I think the person is trying to give me a history lesson. The vehicle has evolved, the brand has evolved, and frankly the name has evolved.

I prononce things in a way that makes all parties comfortable yet allowing them to still understand what I am saying in a coherent and proper manner. Porsha and Porsche both do the job so it boils down to a matter of preference but offense and respect are just silly ways of justifying your preference.

well said!!!!!

tig 06-21-2010 08:51 PM

I pronounce it correctly and it rubs me wrong when others (who know better) do it incorrectly. It is a family name and there is NO ambiguity about how that family prefers to have it pronounced. Even the Porsche TV commercials pronounce it correctly.

Of course I'm a bit sensitive to the issue because my last name, Kindel, is often mis-pronounced "Kin-del" when it's "Kind-l".

DRACO A5OG 06-21-2010 09:15 PM

What a Funny Thread, reminds me of the movie Show Girls when the stripper pronounced Versace = Vur SAce. Just to annoy people I say Vur Sace. Funny, no one corrects me ;-P

Hell, it depends whom I speak to, my Foreign/European/German Clients I say PORCSHA and my American younger male clients Porsch (silent e, sounds more macho, I guess)

Too me she is my girl so I call her proper Porsche (a)

DanielDudley 06-22-2010 02:15 AM

I painted that Porsh for you, and that'll be fifty dollars...

BTW, it ain't really a Porsh, it's a Ferrari.

KCinBR 06-22-2010 02:44 AM

OK let me clear this whole thing up:

I'm from South Carolina, we have completly destroyed the english/american language, but we can understand each other.
Having said that... if I can say "Powwersha" I know "you can do it"....come on give it a try...all together now "Powwersha" :D;)


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