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kiwiokie 06-22-2010 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 5415887)
What aren't both pronunciations acceptable? "Porsh" or "Porsha," what's the big deal? (As long as you're not addressing an actual member of the Porsche family.) If someone calls a car a "Chevy," I know they're referring to a Chevrolet.

"Porsch-eh" <-- clever

Ah, don't forget to pronounce the "T" on the end of Chevrolet (Chevro - let rather than Chevro - lay) otherwise it will sound like you are making some pretentious French pronunciation of an American name.

tobluforu 06-22-2010 04:52 AM

Ok I'm going to be that guy, but what does this have to do do with being technical?

NeunElf3.2 06-22-2010 05:01 AM

Monty Python says....
 
..Although it looks like Por-sha, it's actually pronounced Throatwarblermangrove.

Geronimo '74 06-22-2010 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tobluforu (Post 5416904)
Ok I'm going to be that guy, but what does this have to do do with being technical?


Oooh, tread carefully, I made the same remark about a post a few days ago.
Seems that somebody has to die and make you forum cop/thread police before you can make such remarks....
Oh yeah and I'm a douche nozzle too.... because they said so...

:D:D:D

twistoffat 06-22-2010 05:54 AM

You guys are great entertainment. In Germany the "e" is actually pronounced more like an "eh" than an "ah" but that said most people here refer to the one pelicans like as a "neunelfer". The German alphabet is a bit screwed up. A German E is pronouned like an english A (ie able). The German "i" is pronounced like an english E etc etc. If you really want to laugh ask a German to pronounce " it was a very big vampire" youīll be amazed at how many wery big wampires there are :)

bdisco 06-22-2010 06:05 AM

YouTube - Hey... It's Porsche!

Joe Bob 06-22-2010 06:17 AM

Porsche is a two syllable word....













































But then again, so is DickHead....

schnellfahrer 06-22-2010 07:03 AM

I love threads like these.

Itīs not Porscha anyways; itīs pronounced Porsch-eh.

:)

wwest 06-22-2010 07:52 AM

"..we have completely destroyed the english/american language..."

NOT..!!

It's those damn yankees that have muddled up the english language.

Go to London and learn the original engine language and then come back and decide which is more correct, south or north.

Trackrash 06-22-2010 09:00 AM

I can't believe I read this whole thing
 
I was taught that the difference between Porsch and Porsche is...
if you own one it's Porscha.

When someone with a Spanish accent asks me if I have a Portch, I reply "yes, I have two, one on the front and one on the rear of my house.

BTW, I am not a snob, I swear it.

Hawkeye's-911T 06-22-2010 09:03 AM

Firstly, I can't believe I went through & read this thread & secondly found it, for the most part, quite entertaining. It is good to see a fair number of people on this board have a real sense of humour & don't take all of this too seriously. I still find it hard (almost unnatural) to say it as a two syllable word even when I am in the presence of other owners.

Cheers
JB

midlife 06-22-2010 09:03 AM

Wow, sensitive topic.

I don’t think it is disrespectful to pronounce someone’s name differently in a different country.

When my father moved from Germany, our family only uses the English pronunciation of our last name. I feel pretentious using the German pronunciation of my own name when I travel to Germany. When other Americans use the German pronunciation of my name, it feels like they are joking.

I have heard it pronounced Porsch by Germans.

It doesn’t bother me how people pronounce Porsche, just how uptight people get about it.

hoyabear 06-22-2010 09:14 AM

I also feel a bit like a d-bag when I say "Porsch-eh" around lay folk, so I usually side-step the issue alltogether by refering to my car as the "beast." You gotta know your audience...

CCM911 06-22-2010 09:58 AM

I brought a buddy to one of our PCA meetings after he bought his Porsche. At one point in the meeting, new members were asked to introduce themselves. So my buddy said "This is my first Porsche..." at which point our president stops him to say "It is pronounced Por-Sha".

I refuse to say "Por-Sha" to this day, but am more than happy to say "Douche Nozzle" ever time I see the ex president.

nineball 06-22-2010 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myamoto1 (Post 5415877)
So do you call Germany, "Germany" or "Deutschland?" I assume it's "Deutschland," since it's the proper German pronunciation ;)


exactly. if we were living in germany ( :) ) then by all means harp on anyone who does not use two syllables in the pronunciation. we are, however, in america, and we pronounce things with an american accent and take.

here are a few more examples:

do you say mexico or meh-he-koe?

boston seltics or keltics?

did my friend go to noter dame college?

all of those have american pronunciations, just like the single syllable porsche. why should the porsche family get special treatment just because they built a car? people pronounce my name wrong all the time and no one but me cares.

how about the other side of the coin? we discovered, and named, aluminum yet people in the uk not only pronounce it wrong but they changed the spelling as well.

rusnak 06-22-2010 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeunElf3.2 (Post 5416912)
..Although it looks like Por-sha, it's actually pronounced Throatwarblermangrove.

hahahaha....who know Will Ferrell was a member?

dshepp806 06-22-2010 12:40 PM

Maybe the confusion is what generated the term "P-car"...........

NeunElf3.2 : Funny as helllllllll1

Doyle

AlfonsoR 06-22-2010 01:17 PM

I love this thread, a bunch of comedians for sure.

There's a barbeque place about 30 miles west of Houston on I-10. The name is Hinze.

I used to pronounce it "Hinz" with a long i. Used to go there all the time and finally met someone that knew the owners. We go to talking about the name, he said it's pronounced hin-zee with a short i. Hmmm, i said, I think I'll just call it Hinz with a long i. He didn't think that was funny. I was just doing it to be a Canuk_Targa, though. :)

I think Porsche is a very beautiful name, and because it is a name, I will pronounce it proper, just like Hin-zee with a short i.

R K T 06-22-2010 02:40 PM

If the Ferrari discussion forum saw this thread, they would be cracking up for days. FIVE pages of debate on how to pronounce the name of our cars! Amazing that some will always insist on saying Porsh.
I don't know....is it Ferraree or Ferrareye or ........

lindemans 06-22-2010 03:04 PM

Written phonetically, I would indeed say Porr-shuh, with a rolling r; but then again you Americans don't let the r roll with the tip of your tongue in your language.

This is what German English would sound like by the way...

YouTube - German English

...

JJ 911SC 06-22-2010 03:34 PM

As in...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lindemans (Post 5418091)
... don't let the r roll with the tip of your tongue in your language...

...http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1277249513.jpg

lindemans 06-22-2010 03:56 PM

Does it really sounds very different from wwwwwwwrole it up ... :)

Great picture !

JJ 911SC 06-22-2010 04:09 PM

Stand by...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lindemans (Post 5418164)
... Great picture !

First it was the US now the rest of the world :D:D:D

14 May 2010 ... The head of Tim Hortons says the iconic Canadian coffee chain plans to expand into a global brand by 2013.; CBC News - Money - Tim Hortons plans to go global

wdfifteen 06-22-2010 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canuck_Targa (Post 5415685)
Go ahead call me a heathen, an uncouth, unrefined lowbrow, but I just can't call my car a "Porscha". I have been dreaming of owning a 911 since I was about 6, that was in the mid 70's. Everyone I know or have ever known have called them "Porsche" (one syllable). I realize that in German it is pronounced Porscha, but now that I own one.... if I changed the way I pronounce the name, I might as well get a t-shirt that says:

"I'm a pretentious knob and now pronounce the name correctly now".

Don't get me wrong, however you pronounce it is fine either way, I can't change just because I own one now even if it is correct.

I still call my shoes "Nike" also, even though a marketing plan some years ago insisted we call them "Nikee" (it sounds more European).

If you've got a Porsh Targ, flaunt it.

Gogar 06-22-2010 05:28 PM

When I'm in a group of enthusiasts I say "Porch" on purpose, and then I make a note of the folks who get upset about it.

Then I buy them a really expensive beer, and have it brought to the table ice cold, in the bottle.

Then I eat my salad with the dinner fork, and demand separate checks.

80-911SC 06-22-2010 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveE (Post 5415743)
I don't consider it pretentious to pronounce the name correctly, but whatever, dude..............

not calling it pretentious, but if you think about it two syllables is correct in German, but the OP is a kanuck and they talk like most of us ..... so one syllable is fine and sounds right if you sound it out ........... in my opinion as with some others the two syllable sounds snooty if your a yank .......... if it had an A at the end y'all would be right ...............:eek:

dentist90 06-22-2010 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aston@ultrasw.c (Post 5416036)

So, that's a Porsche, HUH? Taking liberties here... :D



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1277261382.jpg

haycait911 06-22-2010 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gogar (Post 5418326)
When I'm in a group of enthusiasts I say "Porch" on purpose, and then I make a note of the folks who get upset about it.

Then I buy them a really expensive beer, and have it brought to the table ice cold, in the bottle.

Then I eat my salad with the dinner fork, and demand separate checks.

I make a point of pronouncing it 'porch'. amazing how many people correct me, even when I'm leaning against mine. :rolleyes:

but then, my first 'porch' was a 914, so I probably don't have the right attitude. ;)

jwetering 06-22-2010 10:30 PM

So here's a question for you canucklehead.

How do you pronounce Fuch? You know those round alloy whoosyamawhatsit things what your tires are all done wrapped around?

Futch I suppose. Has a nice non pretentious ring to it. Can't imagine you'd call them by there proper name. It's a serious question actually. Not trying to be funny.

And really, don't get me wrong, I gave up caring about how people pronounce Porsche many years ago. Like I say, I'll call my car a Porsh once in a while too. It rolls off the tongue all nice and lazy like, and I'm nothing if not lazy.



It does all sort of suggest that you consider those who pronounce certain words correctly as pretentious, and that's what I think is offending people here.

I'm going to go out on a limb here....you've not not really ever been very far out of Alberta ever have you? hhmmm?

haycait911 06-22-2010 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwetering (Post 5418731)
So here's a question for you canucklehead.

How do you pronounce Fuch? You know those round alloy whoosyamawhatsit things what your tires are all done wrapped around?

Futch I suppose. Has a nice non pretentious ring to it. Can't imagine you'd call them by there proper name. It's a serious question actually. Not trying to be funny.

And really, don't get me wrong, I gave up caring about how people pronounce Porsche many years ago. Like I say, I'll call my car a Porsh once in a while too. It rolls off the tongue all nice and lazy like, and I'm nothing if not lazy.



It does all sort of suggest that you consider those who pronounce certain words correctly as pretentious, and that's what I think is offending people here.

I'm going to go out on a limb here....you've not not really ever been very far out of Alberta ever have you? hhmmm?

to whom are you directing your comments?

skinnerd 06-23-2010 12:14 AM

content deleted......my thoughts best kept to myself
my opologies to all

haycait911 06-23-2010 01:03 AM

I'm a little of number 2, 6 and 7. one syllable is easier. and a bit of I'm embarrassed of sounding 'snootish' . I consider my 'porch' pronounciation more of a nickname, like 'chevy'. chevrolet is someone's name but it's OK to say 'chevy'.

I've owned these cars most of my life, and while I love them, they're just cars. I have them because I like to drive hard and these things seem best able to take it. plus, they're pretty.

but, again, 20 years of 914 ownership has probably skewed my viewpoint.

Geronimo '74 06-23-2010 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinnerd (Post 5418795)
ps Initially, I too didn't pronounce Porsche correctly. I was happy to be educated.

So you don't say "Porscha" either but "Porschuh" then?
And of course you use the rolling "r" which is AFAIK not used in the English language at all...

All this fuss about a syllable at the end while most of the native English speakers here on this board don't pronounce the letter "r" correctly either... (correctly meaning in the same way as it is pronounced in the Porsche surname when said by a German.... )

PoRRRRRschuh....


F it, I use the one syllable version with the rolling R, and if anyone tries to correct me, I will keep on saying it as I am used to, just a little more clearly and loudly... hoping to annoy the sh|t out of them :D:D:D

Langers 06-23-2010 02:00 AM

Given that it's someone's name, I think it is highly disrespectful to not make the effort to pronounce it properly.

Geronimo '74 06-23-2010 02:58 AM

From Wiki.answers.com

Porsch-uh. It is a family name, and is pronounced this way in Germany. Standard rules of English prevent "e" from being spoken at the end of a word, however, so Porsch, without the "-uh" is a correct English pronunciation. Many auto brand names are pronounced differently in English. It is really a matter of preference, but Porsch-uh is more authentic.


About.com

Porsche
What is the correct pronunciation of Porsche? While the “proper” way to pronounce some German terms in English may be debatable, this isn't one of them. Porsche is a family name, and the family members pronounce their surname PORSH-uh, not PORSH! Same for the car. You don't say NYKE for Nike, so don't be lazy and leave off the e in Porsche! Porsche's U.S. TV commercials pronounce the name correctly and so should you.

If you insist on using the two syllable version "because respect demands it", don't forget about the correct pronunciation of the R too!....

Take your pick guys...
This thread is about ready to be classified with all the other threads on the exact same subject....

Lothar 06-23-2010 04:31 AM

I'm better off than I thought I was. I have a front porsch, back porsch and a 1978 Porsch. While you are at it, drop that pretentious "c". Just call it a Porsh. Then I would get a bumper sticker that says "I <3 my Porsh".

Now we can start having some real fun by phonetically pronouncing Renault and Perrier.

Anyone for a glass of Chardohnee or Peenoh Noyer?

Porsche is German. Who am I to decide how it should be pronounced. It would be very arrogant to assume that I can assign a pronunciation different from those that put their family name on such a successful company.

GH85Carrera 06-23-2010 04:40 AM

It is much like saying Pue-get for Peugeot .

desertt5 06-23-2010 04:50 AM

My wife and kids just call mine the Porscheee. Name has stuck in the house now.

Z-man 06-23-2010 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveE (Post 5415743)
I don't consider it pretentious to pronounce the name correctly, but whatever, dude..............

+1.

And isn't it a bit pretentious to continue to mis-pronounce a name once you know the correct pronunciation?

What's the point? Why stop with just Porsche? Why stop with just incorrect pronunciation? What about numbers? Like speed limits? I can see it now, "But officer, I just mis-read "Speed Limit - 55" to be "Lowest Speed allowed - 75." That's how I learned it from the beginning, and yeah, people have pointed out that the sign really says "Speed Limit 55" but I will continue to read it as "Lowest Speed Allowed - 75." That's why I was driving 95 in my Porsch.

It will be anarchy, I tell ya... ;)

-Zoltan.

PS: With a name that often is misspelled (don't even start with the mis-pronunciations!) I guess I'm sensitive towards stuff like this.

Jim Richards 06-23-2010 05:24 AM

Yeah, what Zee said. :cool:


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