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Need new espresso maker
I got 2 years out of my krups expresso maker. Made good preasure and it was cheap, but its busted. I want to try something new.
Specs: -$500ish or less. Might go higher if its going to last me 10 years -Only needs to make expersso. Doesn't need to grind the coffee or have drip coffee maker built in. The less automated the better. -NO pod machines My sister has a Francis Francis and she likes it, but I have heard the newer machines are pieces of junk, and their customer service is horrible. Input needed!
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About La Sorrentina machines
![]() You won't get less automated than this, and it's fantastic. I don't use anything else. My wife had a nespreso machine which she gave away when I bought my Atomic. No reason it can't last 50 years, although eventually the silicon seals (2) would need replacement I suppose. (Getting it right does take some trial and error initially)
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Our Krups went Ka-Blooey...we found a Cuisinart at a great price (200 less than Macey's wanted) at overstock.com. Model EM 100...here' a vid on the machine...
YouTube - Cuisinart Espresso Maker EM100 At overtock.com, the price is well in your range.
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U get what U pay for...
As U probably know I bought a Salvatore Espresso Maker...in October of 2003...it is handbuilt with all commercial parts in Solvang , CA. There are NO plastic parts in the machine all Brass and Copper. After looking over what was available and listening to the advice in the form of reviews on Whole Latte Love that the people who purchased high end machines wished they had done so earlier instead of screwing around with lessor machines I ponied up the money and bought the Salvatore.I have had no regrets in nealry 7 years. As a matter of fact there are some purchases that are worth the money because YOU USE THEM EVERYDAY..this is one of them. I have used that Salvatore everyday for nearly 7 years without a problem. SOmetimes I leave it on all day.. When looking for an Espresso maker..NEVER buy a machine that does everything...there is simply to many things to BREAK. Buy a single purpose machine that brews the coffee and also buy a good quality BURR Coffee Grinder..the MINI MAZZER is the top of the stroke.. You can also see Salvatores for sale on E-bay from time to time..if something is wrong they can be easily rebuilt. My Salvatore has my name on the inside..Salvatore takes the order and then he builds a machine for you..so your name is going to be on the inside. I have been very happy with my machine and would recommend that anybody who wants a quality machine look no further than a Salvatore.
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And it was less than $500, right Tabby?
Your name inside...gosh I have a pool cue that has that...made back in the early '70's, a "Palmer Supreme"...worth $$ as a collectable these days. How's it play? Like hitting with a piece of pipe... My Keith Josey custom has a much better feel. The cuisinart is a "Pump" machine...so Harddrive, be prepared for some funny noises if you opt for that one...but you'll be amazed how much smoother the result is over the Krupps...somehow, the bitterness gets removed.
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Craigslist!
Living in seattle, we have a pretty good selection to choose from. Silvias are good starter machines. Rancillio Silvia Espresso Machine a francis francis... not sure if this is a good deal for this model: Espresso Machine Fixer upper: Unic 2 head Commercial Espresso Machine
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You could get by with a Cuisinart burr grinder, but their espresso machines are no better than the krups you just got rid of. Something like the Silvia is about as cheap you can get while still being serviceable locally.
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These machines still show up on Craigs list for ~ $100. That post was in April 2007 and the sucker still pumps out great espresso. Only maintenance so far was a simple cleaning (remove the screen and wipe) and re-tighten of hardware. The only 'special' handling it gets is I only run bottled water through it. Shows no sign of slowing down...
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We've been very happy with the Gaggia New Baby.
Wholelattelove.com: Gaggia: Gaggia New Baby: Espresso Machines: Semi-Automatic Espresso Machines ![]()
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I have $1800 in my Salvatore and Mazzer...used everyday for 6.75 years and figure the alternative of 2 Lattes a day at a low of $2 a throw at a Coffee Emporium. How long would it take for the machina to pay for itself... As STATED sometimes it is worth putting out the dinero for something that gets used...and the quality of the product can be tasted. However PWD you would be making a big mistake to think I am Mr Yuppy conspicuous consumption.. For instance I don't believe in buying the TOP O THE LINE when it comes to appliances....Basic Heavy Duty model is where I go..My little bread Toaster is the cheapest model available..cost $7.00 it gets the job done.. Why the Salvatore...because it is the Basic Heavy Duty Unit..rock solid at nearly 60 lbs,handbuilt..commercial parts..built to last...no cheap Plastic or Pot metal parts...SS, brass and copper...built the old fashion way with care and pride...that in todays mass produced throw away world costs money...
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Compare the Salvatore with the above...machines...
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I have the same Krups espresso machine from college. Getting a little tired, but it still works well. I am into it for about a dollar a year
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i like to skip all the fancy stuff
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I use a french press - everyday.
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I know you say you don't want anything automatic, but I do suggest a low end Superautomatic. I've had a Jura-Capresso E8 for 3 years and it is still going strong. We had the same machine at work and 12+ (the plus was the people using it that weren't part of the club) using it every day for 2 years. After 2 years, I was gone, but the machine is still there.
This machine, usually around $600 refurbished ($900 new) makes great espresso and coffee. Beans on one side, water on the other, push the button and coffee. Yes, I expect that with a very good semi-automatic and a very good grinder, I could make better espresso. But it wouldn't be consistent or as quick, or as braindead.
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for $500 you can buy a lot of espressos at a good bar or coffee shop; also let's you hang out & watch the free "humanity show"
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Why bother with a Salvatore, when for a mere $6,000, you could have one of these:
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If you want to be hip, then you need the Coffee Bong! AKA the vacuum coffee pot.
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Or my favorite, the coffee equivalent of the easy bake oven:
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(acknowledging that the fancy-pants US-made semiautomatic is da $****...)
We bought a lower end Capresso (1500?) for work 4 years ago from WholeLatteLove for maybe $600. Over 15,000 cycles later, it's still going with no service or maintenance. When it breaks, they say $300 to recondition and we're off for another 10k+ cycles. Not the best espresso ever, but consistently better than 80% of your Local Coffee Shop (TM) dreck. I'm a believer, but since we already have a Rocky grinder we're buying a good E61 group semiauto one of these days now...
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