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trekkor 07-02-2010 07:24 PM

I'm going to 'go out on a limb' here...

Drop 100 dudes from 23 feet.
Only Snipe gets away unhurt because of fierce and efficient monkey roll. :D


KT

m21sniper 07-02-2010 07:37 PM

i'd bet that after minimal instruction you could get 95% to have no major injuries in a fall from 23 feet. That's only 2 stories.

Again, a typical paratrooper withstands a greater impact in every single jump he undergoes. Of course, paratroopers are taught to roll upon landing.

But by all means, let the ribbing continue. :D

McLovin 07-02-2010 07:39 PM

C'mon snipe, how about doing the jump?

How much would it take to get you to leap off a 23 foot roof, videotape and show it?

We can get a fund going! I'm in for $10.

slodave 07-02-2010 08:45 PM

That would be premeditated and the chances of landing on your feet, with bent knees, then rolling would be easy to do.

Try that as you are caught by surprise as you slip off the ladder or tree branch at 20'. You will not realize what happened until you are on the ground. That's just the way it is.

trekkor 07-02-2010 08:51 PM

There's a good chance Snipe is always poised to enter a monkey roll at a moments notice.
I give him a pass.

The rest of us are domed...


KT

porsche4life 07-02-2010 08:57 PM

Sniper.... I swear you have to be the DUMBEST most STUBBORN guy here... This thread was not started to discuss the fall height.... It was started b/c someone was seriously injured and we were all being told to watch out....


As someone that works at heights and has family that works at heights daily your idiotic responses really make no sense... Sure a paratrooper survives it... They are also TOTALLY prepared and land FEET FIRST! 23ft is more than enough distance to kill you if you fall unexpectedly.... Hell 10ft is enough to kill you if you land on the back or your neck. We are all very careful when we are working b/c one fall could always be your last. If you are working you usually don't realize you are falling until your azz hits the ground.


Just drop it.. YOU ARE NOT ALWAYS RIGHT!

slodave 07-02-2010 08:59 PM

The only way to do this experiment is to enlist the help of tabs... We set a computer 23' up on a platform, Bill can get involved looking at spoons, cold steel blades or skanky ho's. When Bill is nice and focused/distracted on the screen, tabs comes up and pushes him out of the tree.... Then lets see what happens..

mossguy 07-02-2010 08:59 PM

Yes he is!

Best,
Tom

porsche4life 07-02-2010 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slodave (Post 5435868)
The only way to do this experiment is to enlist the help of tabs... We set a computer 23' up on a platform, Bill can get involved looking at spoons, cold steel blades or skanky ho's. When Bill is nice and focused on the screen, tabs comes up and pushes him out of the tree.... Then lets see what happens..

I volunteer our crane truck... But I have dyslexia... It may be 32' he gets put at....

RWebb 07-02-2010 09:31 PM

the guy was likely about 60 yrs old!

Geronimo '74 07-03-2010 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 5435360)
Record distance for falling and not dying: 10 THOUSAND METERS.
;)

The stewardess... did she do a monkey roll??
Do you think she would manage to survive a second fall from this height??
NO? Then I think we can safely call this one: a lucky landing...

No need to get all worked up on this guys.

One can indeed train to absorb the impact of a high fall.
But even a trained commando with a ninja training background will need a certain amount of LUCK in order to just dust off his sleeve and walk away. (even from a mere 23 feet)
Knowing that my uncle is not a young, fit paratrooper, nor is he a ninja, I think it is safe to say he was lucky.

(at least we think so, it is looking good but we still don't have 100% confirmation that he will have no permanent injuries)

porsche4life 07-03-2010 12:13 AM

Good to hear he is doing ok.... Every year we hear of several guys in my dads profession being killed in falls....

I know a guy that fell 60ft and lived..... He was wearing several layers of warm winter clothes though... and he landed in a huge snow drift.... We count him as the luckiest SOB we know....

dewolf 07-03-2010 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 5435567)
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10 feet is a tough distance though. Just high enough to really f you up, yet so low that reaction time is extremely limited. You'd be better off falling 20 feet in most cases i suspect, you'd have twice as much time to get yourself ready.

No you wouldn't. Simple math should tell you that. So from 23ft you have less than 1 second to prepare yourself for something you are completely unprepared for.

"On the earth, the acceleration rate of a free-falling body is 32 feet per second per second of fall (9.8 meters per second squared). This means that for each second the body is falling, its velocity increases 32 feet per second, up to a limiting velocity of approximately 125 miles per hour."

Your uncle hit the ground hard, hopefully he'll make a full recovery. Best wishes.

GWN7 07-03-2010 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 5435990)
Good to hear he is doing ok.... Every year we hear of several guys in my dads profession being killed in falls....

I know a guy that fell 60ft and lived..... He was wearing several layers of warm winter clothes though... and he landed in a huge snow drift.... We count him as the luckiest SOB we know....


I wonder if we know the same guy?

The one I know fell out of a airplane and landed in a drift between two cut sunflower fields.

dentist90 07-03-2010 08:35 AM

I've fallen off a ladder. Actually the ladder lost it's purchase on the ground (no spotter). Lucky for me it was only 10' or so, just some bruised shins. But I will tell you that cat-like twisting (I don't have a tail) and rolling after you land is of no help whatsoever when the ladder is still under you. Rolling also implies you have some sort of forward momentum. It's truly a challenge to roll when you come straight down on your side, back or face.
Snipe's point about controlled 2 storey falls being very survivable is valid. Just not applicable to this scenario. That lady falling off the 10' ladder would not have been better off by having an additional 10' to react, nor would most people (Ninja's included). IMHO there just aren't that many average human beings who could fall out of a 20' tree without significant injury.
Geronimo's uncle is, pardon the expression, lucky. Best wishes to him.

9dreizig 07-03-2010 08:52 AM

Hey snipe will monkey sex do the same as a monkey roll :-) ?

Rot 911 07-03-2010 03:29 PM

I've made over 100 military jumps while in the Army. Prior to most military jumps (non-free fall) you do some practice parachute landing falls. A PLF is something like Sniper is talking about where you land and try to roll over on to your left or right side. Catch the wind just right and you will do the head rattling "feet, ass, head" PLF. The platform you jump off of is set at a height to have you hit the ground at a speed approximate to the speed you would hit using a parachute. So, how tall is this platform? Four feet.

pete3799 07-03-2010 03:56 PM

4 feet? ppffft.
Snipe could do that blindfolded with one arm tied behind his back.

vash 07-03-2010 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 5435867)
Sniper.... I swear you have to be the DUMBEST most STUBBORN guy here... This thread was not started to discuss the fall height.... It was started b/c someone was seriously injured and we were all being told to watch out....


As someone that works at heights and has family that works at heights daily your idiotic responses really make no sense... Sure a paratrooper survives it... They are also TOTALLY prepared and land FEET FIRST! 23ft is more than enough distance to kill you if you fall unexpectedly.... Hell 10ft is enough to kill you if you land on the back or your neck. We are all very careful when we are working b/c one fall could always be your last. If you are working you usually don't realize you are falling until your azz hits the ground.


Just drop it.. YOU ARE NOT ALWAYS RIGHT!

you are wise for your young age..hahaha.

UconnTim97 07-04-2010 09:34 AM

Sorry to hear about your uncle.


on a side note, this is my kind of ninja training:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1278264872.jpg


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