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Sniper do you have paypal?
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Snipe, 4 ft. is a lot different than 23 ft. Terminal velocity is per second squared, 60 mph is 88ft/sec, your such a tuck and roll guy - how the hell did a mini bus run over your ass over when all you had to move was ????? what????? 4 feet??? That math is tenths of a second, pretty fast as far as I can calculate. Tuck and Roll, cool you just missed the fast part. We now have all 4, Larry, Moe, Curry & snipe, give it a rest dude, your already a stooge, Still like your input, way better than bugs bunny Finn |
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Oh wait, i did react in time. I was able to greatly reduce my injuries by getting partially out of the way because i did react in time. If i'd have reacted another tenth of a second faster, i probably would not have been hurt at all. Or perhaps like the time i was rapelling and the D-ring hook on my web gear broke, and i fell at least 20 feet and was not hurt because i rolled (backwards) when i landed? (i'm sure it didn't hurt that i was wearing a K-pot and it was a sandy surface). I posted links to numerous sites all recommending that you A) learn how to fall, and B) roll when you do, as it reduces the impact force by up to 30%. But what do any of us know? |
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But hey, it's not like i linked to 3 separate sporting sites stating that you should A) learn how to fall, and B) roll when you do. :) |
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All i have said in this thread is that if you learn how to fall you MAY be able to greatly reduce the chance of injury. Which is incomprehensible to some, apparently, even though i posted links to several disparate sporting sites that all said the exact same thing. Quote:
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And of course if you have a partially screwed up canopy you can hit the ground REALLY hard. And if you do, rolling will, as the site i previously linked to stated, reduce the actual impact force by up to 30% That's just a fact. What you actually land on also has a huge "impact" (hehe) on how easy/hard it will be to avoid injury. |
Wow nice to know that Mr. Manly man put me on ignore.... Guess he can't stand someone who points out he's wrong....
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blah blah blah, but i repeat myself sonny.
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While I don't disagree with your facts, it is probably too late for Geronimo's uncle to fall better last Friday. Your premises and conclusions probably deserve a thread of their own. Best, Tom |
It's all good.
I never meant to knock Geronimo's uncle, i was merely trying to inform those that may not be aware that by learning how to fall you can greatly reduce the risk of injury in some (not all) situations. And i did not just offer an unsupported opinion, i linked to 3 different sporting sites that all backed up my claims. People are certainly free to disagree, but it doesn't mean i'm not right. :-P |
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Truth is if there was no debate that sprang up here this thread would have been buried about an hour after it was first posted. ;)
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No worries guys, I appreciate everybody's comments and views on the matter. The monkey roll is a proven technique. Whether it is feasible while accidentally falling depends on many things. Knowing the technique is one thing, being able to execute it, is another. You guys getting all worked up is, well, nothing out of the ordinary... :)
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Someone already took the "Superman" handle :rolleyes:
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Rot911 has it right. The only time you jump from higher than 4 feet to practice a PLF ("monkey roll", WTF?) is on the fan trainer - where the harness you're strapped into drives a bloody great fan to slow your descent. The guys with 120 lbs packs DON'T LAND THEM - they let them out on a 40ft lanyard so they hit the ground significantly before they do. |
Your ruck gets unfurled but your rifle, web gear, helmet, body armor, canteens, standard ammo loadout and chute are all still strapped to you- yes? And they weigh how much?
The term "monkey roll" is a kung fu martial arts term, so you may now consider yourself un-WTF'ed. My sister was in the 101st Airborne and has her jump wings, by the way. I also served with several Paratroopers, as a whole lot of airborne trained soldiers actually go to leg units after airborne school. I however was never stupid enough to want to jump out of aircraft. Proud leg here. I have no idea what sport parachuting has to do with anything, as i've not mentioned it at all. |
I've never heard of a monkey roll per se in kung fu. There are monkey styles and rolls but it isn't a term of art in any style I've studied. For instance we had various monkey strikes and kicks, but a roll was just called a roll. A google search doesn't turn up much on it. I think you're referring to what is typically called a shoulder roll.
But *this* is a monkey roll: http://www.tangosushi.com/images/sus...key%20Roll.jpg |
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