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Flying isn't all that bad on other countries' airlines. In some places flying is still something only rich people (relative to those countries) can afford and you tend to be surrounded by a slightly better class of folks than the matching sweatsuit, old lady perfume wearing, loud cell phone chatting idiot like we see on every single domestic flight. My mom was a stewardess for AA back in the 60's and she said it was the most glamorous job she'd ever imagined. She got to meet all the celebrities of the day and still raves about how great a job it was. When I was a kid, we still got dressed up to fly and it was a special occasion. A better, vanished time indeed.

I remember that too, as a kid. My father always wearing a suit when we flew, or took a train somewhere. My mother dressing me up in some bad kids leisure suit.:D
Nowadays most consider flying just like taking a trip to the supermarket. NO different than slapping on some old clothes and hopping in their car.
I'm usually the last one on, and the last one off the plane. I'm in no rush. People kill eachother to be the first ones on and off. I let everyone get off , I grab my bag from under the seat and walk off.
I feel they should really limit the size of carryons to even smaller than what they do now. I totaly sympathize with this FA on that issue.

This is the inevitable consequence of a "race to the bottom" in airline prices. It's become the new Greyhound and you get all of the imbiciles who used to be priced out of that mode of transportation as a result.

Greyhound? Sheesh, when the last time you took Amtrak? Talk about the dregs of society!:eek:

I'm going to have to "plus one" on Sammy's post.


You don't see that happen everyday.

That has not been my experience. SAS is the worst. Some people (they tell me their eastern europeans) jump up as soon as the wheels it the ground. If they're in line behind you they push and shove and try to squeeze past you. If I smelled like them I probably wouldn't want to remain in a confined space either. My European companion said, "Don't worry, that's just way they are," but I gave some some smelly, swarthy little guy who was pushing on my back enough schite that the backed off and kept his distance. I don't think he understood my English. but he got the message.

I can't condone Stevies action to any extent. But I too am disgusted with the behavior of American passengers.

I'm dying to hear who this female instigator was. She is going to have about as much fun as Linda Tripp once her name gets out. This guy is becoming a folk hero and that means she'll be the villain. Good riddance too. It's about time idiots on airplanes get some shame. I yelled at some kids on a flight once that certainly would have landed me in handcuffs had it been post 9/11. And the mom of one of the boys thanked me profusely for doing so.

This kind of behavior (by passengers and airline employees) is why I drive everywhere (unless there's an ocean between me and my destination).

I drive anywhere within 500 miles and often further - drove from Orygun to Louisiana a few years ago (fun trip in ye ol' Boxster S).

That's a shame.

Agreed. when airline passengers started being regarded and treated as cattle, it stopped being fun. People are herded, pushed, stacked, corralled, forced to wait, stand ,wait, stand, searched, acused, crowded, cramped, etc.

And people wonder why they get a tad irritable.

I flew on 7 business trips last year. All of them sucked. Flying wasnt that bad 20 years ago, almost enjoyable. Now it's like having fingernails pulled off with pliars.

We search 80 year old blue-haied grandmas and make Joe average citizen wait for an extra half hour at least and take of his freaking shoes and follow all sorts of ridiculous screening and flying rules, just so we don't offend muhammed with the bomb vest.

Back when the passenger was actually a customer and not luggage, people enjoyed flying a bit more and were more pleasant and nicer to the highly qualified personnel who's hardest task is to hand out peanuts and pour soda pop.

That moron stevie the stewardess was a self-proclaimed bag nazi. His words.

He was one of those barney fife types who ran arounds insisting that passengers stick their carry-on baggage in the little rectangular frame thing to make sure it isn't over-sized, who acted like his only purpose in life was to hassle passengers. he was an ******* to passengers, according to him.
He had hassled that particular passenger earler and she was still pissed. So when she started trying to grab her bag and he went into nazi mode and jumped her for whatever, she was still pissed.
I'd have probably gave him an "accidental" elbow or two. He's an ass, a drama queen, and a crybaby.

Ya know Sammy, you totally miss the point. You're a real vocal supporter of "rules and regulations", but you're bagging on the guy for trying to have passengers abide by airline rules. Half the problem on a plane is when morons try to stuff something passed off as "carry on" in the small compartments. A lot plain just don't fit, and create a nuisance for people trying to get on or off. Couple this with fewer flights, more people (and more carry on bags) on each flight, limited room for said bags, and you have a problem.

Self centered individuals who think that the rules don't pertain to them could give a rat's ass less if someone else has room for their bag or not. This is when issues start. Granted air travel sucks these days, but if passengers displayed a bit more consideration for each other, problems like this wouldn't arise.

However, in this entitled and self important society that's just a pipe dream.

And BTW, had you been in the situation and given him a few elbows, I'd bet that you'd be investigating posting bail.

way off base

1. we search them b/c a normal or innocuous looking person is the best one to carry a bomb, knife, etc.

2. ignoring your use of "technical terms" (spelling issues), flight attendants have to be able to take charge and lead the passengers to safety in case of a crash or water landing; not to mention medical care

- now samhead, what is really going on here is your extreme homophobia

Agree and would love to find out who she is. Funny thing that she has not been named nor is she coming up on the morning talk shows (that I have seen) to tell her side of it. She must have a bit of a guilt feeling going on...

Passengers who carry on bags that are too big are idiots, no doubt about that. But here's a news flash:
People are idiots and they always have been. That hasnt changed. People who work in the service industry have always known that. AND THEY DEAL WITH THAT. That's why they have that saying "the customer is always right" even though he usually isn't.
Otherwise they find a different type of work, without making a scene worthy of a stupid soap opera. See, stevie the stewardess had been planning this little drama stunt for a long time.

BTW, seems like more details are coming out regarding this clown. He reportedly started swearing at the passenger first. She asked where her bag was and he snapped at her and went off unprovoked. The scratch on his head? His fault.
He was very rude to at least one other passenger who simply asked for a towel to clean up a spill on the seat that was there from the previous flight. She didn't want to sit down on a wet seat and asked if he had somethnig she could wipe it up with.
Not an exact quote but I believe she claimed he rolled his eyes and said in a snotty way, "No. maybe when we get in the air, I have to take care of myself right now honey".
More and more details are gonna come out about this loser and everyone who is trying to pretend he's someone to be admired are gonna look like horse's asses.

BTW when they first said he was with his boyfriend when he got arrested, all i could do was laugh and think that one of our pelical trolls who happens to work for an airline is gonna be pissed! ;)

Nope, wrong. I was bagging on this clown before I found out he was a flamer.
what is really going on here is people are immortalizing and idolizing a loser who should be ridiculed instead of looked up to. That pisses me off to no end.
Maybe I am just a grumpy old fart but I remember the days when we looked up to characters played by John wayne, we valued tough hard working people who really were heros. People of character, people with high morals. Somewhere along the line people's values got all screwed up.
Damn hippies.

There's still a lot to this story we're not hearing. The mere fact that the passenger has not been named and, apparently, doesn't want to come forward and tell her side of the story, leads me to believe she did something pretty obnoxious and/or wrong. Sure, this guy snapped. But I doubt it was over something really trivial, as he'd been in the biz for a long time. He's BTDT wrt idiot passengers. The one that put him over the edge must have done something more than just be rude.

Yeah? Why's that? :confused: