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U.S.Army insignia question

I found this in amongst my fathers military memorabilia. He retired a CW4. My sister and I were trying to figure out exactly what rank this insignia was for. We're not quite sure if it is a W1 or a W2. Anyone know for sure?

It actually looks more like a U.S. Marine CW3.

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he made CW4...those guys are rare !

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he made CW4...those guys are rare !

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as are most dinosaurs.
Thanks
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It looks like a CW3 to me too.

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In WWI there was only one grade of Warrant Officer in the US Army.
It was not until 1941 that the rank was expanded.

The spacing and colors are not congruent with the Army insignia, and looks more like a Marine CW-3 (as you also mentioned).
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From the link posted by MRM:
On August 17, 1954, the Assistant Secretary of Defense advised the Assistant Secretary of the Army that the other military services concurred in new proposed designs. The new designs authorized by AR 670-5 dated September 20, 1956 were as follows:

Chief Warrant Officer W3
That works with the time frame of when he would have been a CW3.
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Good link, and I think you are right on the mark.
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oops,my bad..
more familar with the current insig.
still ,as I said..CW4 don't grow on tree's..

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CW's...

One of the reasons I sought a commission in the Navy was because my GF was a CW in WWII...he joined after Pearl Harbor. He rode the USS Breton...a more engaging, funny man would be hard to find.

His Brothers were Navy Chiefs, already in the service...they were everywhere during the war. Uncle Jack was the man who taught me how to play Cribbage.

CW's are the best, Kevin.
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CW's are the best, Kevin.
Thanks Paul. The people he served with and those who knew him well all have good things to say about him. I just wish I knew him better. With mom's passing I'm learning more and more about him as we sort thru her things.
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Thanks Paul. The people he served with and those who knew him well all have good things to say about him. I just wish I knew him better. With mom's passing I'm learning more and more about him as we sort thru her things.
I did a tour at BUPERS (Navy speak for Personnel).

I still know a lot of folks (ok, one folk, my former Secretary, but she is the bomb) so if you need anything, need more info on your Dad, let me know and I'll give it my best shot.
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No kidding, more than a Master Chief even. My Uncle is the only Master Chief I ever met in the flesh
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Old joke about an old Warrant Officer standing in an officer's line with his droopy mustache and pipe held up by hand with his elbow resting on his belly. A 2nd lieutenant comes up behind and after a while (as they all do) looked to see what rank the guy in front of him was. Upon discovering it was a Warrant Officer, he tapped him on the shoulder and told him anyone lower than a 2nd lieutenant wasn't supposed to be in the line. The old Warrant turned around with his pipe still in his mouth and said, "Sonny, there ain't nothin lower than a 2nd lieutenant", and turned back around.
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Edumacate me on the tasks and stroke a Warrant Officer has.
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Veteran's records

With his name and service number or years of service, you can get his service records from the federal archives. I was able to get my father's CBI (China, Burma, India theater) records, my father in law's and even my great, great grandfather's records from the Great War of Secession. You might be suprised what you might learn! If he had earned any medals, campaign ribbons, etc. that info will also be included. Good luck on your hunt!
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Cool! I Think I would have wanted to be a WO - sounds like you are all sorts of chops and none of the crap to deal with.
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Dad was a Nike Hercules specialist. He also has some time into the Ajax and Hawk missle programs. I'm only now beginning to realize the extent of his accomplishments. There are tons of Nike missile content on You Tube, I've spent hours studying the faces trying to catch a glimpse of him. No success yet.
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