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Nathans_Dad 11-30-2010 06:44 PM

See I was trying to figure that out. Some sites say cars older than 24 years are exempt and some say cars 1984 and newer have to have a converter. Which is it? Since this is a 1984 model it would possibly need the converter which sucks...

wdfifteen 11-30-2010 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathans_Dad (Post 5701640)
I have a 1984 911 coupe that I have arranged to purchase about 450 miles from me. PPI done today checks out ok with no major issues, a few leaks here and there but nothing major. Compression test shows 8% leakdown on 5 cylinders and 10% on the #4 cylinder.

My options to get the car back here are either drive up in my SUV, rent a trailer there and trailer it back (total 14-16 hours driving) or fly up, rent a car to drive over to where the 911 is and then drive it back here (about 8-9 hours driving and a 1.5 hour plane ride). Cost is a wash between the two. I considered shipping it but it's about double the cost and takes weeks.

The plus of flying up and driving back is less time in a driver's seat and I get to drive my shiny new Porsche back.

The minus of flying up and driving back is the possibility of a breakdown or a blowout. The PO says the tires are old (about 10 years...) and I'm a little nervous about putting 450 miles on 10 year old tires. No cracks in the tires or anything, just old.

Obviously the trailer option nearly removes the breakdown possibility but it's more driving and less fun.

Which would you choose?

Drive it! Sounds like a great opportunity to get to know your new car. Ten year old tires are fine if the pressure is right and you obey speed limits.

Nathans_Dad 11-30-2010 06:49 PM

Ok you guys convinced me, I just made my flight reservation!

My wife is freaking out a little, she is sure I am going to get kidnapped by a rampaging biker gang or something...

patssle 11-30-2010 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathans_Dad (Post 5702165)
See I was trying to figure that out. Some sites say cars older than 24 years are exempt and some say cars 1984 and newer have to have a converter. Which is it? Since this is a 1984 model it would possibly need the converter which sucks...

Oh, I forgot about the individual law. I was going more towards emissions testing, which you will not need to have.

If the car does need it, then the guy selling it to you might be breaking the law too!

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Texas law prohibits any person from selling, offering for sale, leasing, or offering to lease any vehicle not equipped with all emission control systems or devices in good operable condition.
Tampering of Vehicle Emission Controls - Texas Commission on Environmental Quality - www.tceq.state.tx.us

Nathans_Dad 11-30-2010 06:52 PM

Yeah but the car is in Kansas, not Texas. So if it is sold in Kansas without a converter I wonder if they will fail it on inspection in Texas. Not that big of a deal to have one put on I guess, looks like they run about $350 or so.

patssle 11-30-2010 06:59 PM

Ah ok. Different state. See, Texas is so big you say 450 miles I assume it's the same state!

Robert Adams 11-30-2010 07:01 PM

Drive
 
I'm always up for an adventure and I've sure had my fair share over the years. One thing I learned along the way that adds to my enjoyment of the experience. Reduce risk!
If the guy that did the ppi was good, have him do some of the stuff you listed as needing to be done. You will need to do it anyway? If it were me I would reduce some of the risk and have the following done before I pick it up. None of it except the tires is all that expensive to fix.

Needs cam tensioner hoses (not leaking just looked worn) DO, probably a blow out waiting to happen and sure can't fix that to easily on the road
Oil tank hose slight leak; FIX
Seeps at oil return tubes; just keep an eye on them.
Right outer CV joint needs a clamp: GET A CLAMP AND WORRY ABOUT THE CRAP INSIDE WHEN YOU GET IT HOME.
TIRES!!!!! ANYTHING 6 YEARS OLD IS JUNK SITING INSIDE OR OUTSIDE .
Bring duct tape!
And the best piece of mind is get AAA!!! Then the tow is on them, not you.
Have fun and good luck.

stomachmonkey 11-30-2010 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathans_Dad (Post 5702165)
See I was trying to figure that out. Some sites say cars older than 24 years are exempt and some say cars 1984 and newer have to have a converter. Which is it? Since this is a 1984 model it would possibly need the converter which sucks...

When I had my 84 inspected last year here in TX they did not do emissions.

Was safety only, lights, brakes etc...

RWebb 11-30-2010 07:17 PM

if still on the lift, have them put a clamp on that CV

Nathans_Dad 11-30-2010 07:21 PM

Yeah the car is still at the shop so I'm going to see if the current owner minds if I do some maintenance on the car. I'm sure he won't since it is technically still his. :p

Gogar 11-30-2010 07:27 PM

Pull a 9dreizig and get someone else to drive it to your door.

onewhippedpuppy 11-30-2010 07:31 PM

Where in KS Rick? We don't have emissions testing here, so there's no worry about removing cats. TECHNICALLY I think it's still illegal to remove any emissions control device from your vehicle, per federal law.

Nathans_Dad 11-30-2010 08:04 PM

Topeka

RWebb 11-30-2010 08:09 PM

pick a careful route and this could be epic

Heel n Toe 11-30-2010 08:45 PM

For the same reason you're gonna try to get some of that work done, get some new tires... we don't want to hear about one of the rears popping on you at speed and causing you to sideswipe another vehicle... and possibly worse.

It's a false economy to try to save a few bucks by doing the tire thing after you get home.

Get new ones in Topeka, make sure things are torqued down to spec, check again after 100 miles, and ride in confidence.

javadog 12-01-2010 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 5702294)
pick a careful route and this could be epic

There's really only one good route from Topeka to Dallas and that is right through Tulsa. Easy drive.

If the car is still at the shop, it's a no-brainer to get a little work done there first. I've done that countless times.

When's the trip?

JR

Nathans_Dad 12-01-2010 04:02 AM

Planning for Monday

javadog 12-01-2010 04:10 AM

Ah, plenty of time to get some tires from the Tire Rack, if you want. The weather forecast looks good, maybe a little chilly.

JR

Rot 911 12-01-2010 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathans_Dad (Post 5702289)
Topeka

Be going right past Matt's town (Wichita) on the way home won't you?

304065 12-01-2010 06:31 AM

I didn't see the part about the tires.

Under no circumstances should you drive above walking pace with such tires. I would replace them before driving.


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