Pelican Parts Forums

Pelican Parts Forums (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/)
-   Off Topic Discussions (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/)
-   -   Iphone4 available on verizon wireless (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/584866-iphone4-available-verizon-wireless.html)

enzo1 01-11-2011 09:51 AM

Iphone4 available on verizon wireless
 
Verizon Wireless and Apple today announced that the iPhone 4 will be available on the Verizon Wireless network beginning on Thursday, February 10. Qualified Verizon Wireless customers will be given the exclusive opportunity to pre-order iPhone 4 online on February 3, ahead of general availability.:)

Porsche-O-Phile 01-11-2011 10:20 AM

Verizon is going to fall on their face with this one I suspect.

While I don't doubt these will be popular and sell well, I also seriously doubt they're ready for the enormous load that's going to be placed on their network. It'll be interesting and I suspect the quality of (phone, not customer) service will be superior to AT&T, I bet they're in for a few rude surprises...

Google is the big loser here.

UconnTim97 01-11-2011 10:46 AM

I am hoping all the fanboys don't slow down my network. :)

enzo1 01-11-2011 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UconnTim97 (Post 5777616)
I am hoping all the fanboys don't slow down my network. :)

and speed mine up?:)

kaisen 01-11-2011 10:54 AM

I think Verizon supports enough Smartphone (Droid and Blackberry) users to have a gauge on bandwidth usage. I have a Verizon Samsung Fascinate (which couldn't be a more blatant iPhone copycat) and love it so much I don't 'want' for the iPhone. I, for one, LOVE Verizon's service and customer service. I've been a customer for more than a decade.

EarlyPorsche 01-11-2011 11:20 AM

If anyone knows what they are doing in cellular its Verizon. Fear not. I will be turning in the ole blackberry for an iPhone at some point but not in February.

enzo1 01-11-2011 11:28 AM

Verizon iPhone Could Top 15 Million Units in 2011 - Mobile and Wireless - News & Reviews - eWeek.com

Neilk 01-11-2011 11:47 AM

The whole not being able to talk on the phone while browsing seems like a deal killer.

I can imagine someone trying to pull up Google Maps on the iPhone while trying to talk to someone, oops, can't on Verizon.

enzo1 01-11-2011 12:05 PM

yea, they were predicting 20 million, wonder if that was the reason. Wonder why you can't on Verizon?

Porsche-O-Phile 01-11-2011 12:14 PM

I most definitely can talk on the phone (including via a Bluetooth headset) while web browsing and looking at a GPS map. Simultaneously. I've done it. FWIW I have the AT&T iPhone 4 - don't know if that makes a difference, but it most certainly CAN be done.

Halm 01-11-2011 12:37 PM

Crickets. . . The Verizon iPhone is reported to be the exact same one as AT&T's except that it is CDMA, not GSM. In other words is does not support Verizon's new 4G (LTE) data, does not have a dual core processor or GPU like 4 or 5 Verizon phones introduced at CES last week, nor does it have any of the new display technology shown at CES. Oh, and still no custom home screens.

And I can't wait for those guys that jump from AT&T to Verizon to get their first taste of Verizon's "customer service." With my last experience they made AT&T look like Nordstoms'. But I do appreciate them getting off my network. That means more bandwidth for me!

. . . more crickets. :D

slakjaw 01-11-2011 12:57 PM

Verizon knows what its doing? They farmed out almost all the work to Ericsson. Thats right EX-Sprinters building out Verizon. I am sure it will work like a wonderful piece of ****.

teenerted1 01-11-2011 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neilk (Post 5777725)
The whole not being able to talk on the phone while browsing seems like a deal killer.

I can imagine someone trying to pull up Google Maps on the iPhone while trying to talk to someone, oops, can't on Verizon.

please get off the road then!!!!!!

you cant be so stupid that you need GPS and verbal directions to find your way

nostatic 01-11-2011 01:03 PM

The verizon version will not do data and voice at the same time (AT&T does). The verizon phone will work as a hotspot out of the box (AT&T doesn't). The next iPhone will certainly support lte. Will be interesting to see what happens with android sales due to this. I'll stay with AT&T for now - as far as I can tell CS sucks hard with most carriers, and the devil I know has been pretty well behaved lately.

red-beard 01-11-2011 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neilk (Post 5777725)
The whole not being able to talk on the phone while browsing seems like a deal killer.

I can imagine someone trying to pull up Google Maps on the iPhone while trying to talk to someone, oops, can't on Verizon.

I can do this on T-Mobile, with an HD2. In fact, I can take phone calls while I'm "tethering" my laptop to the internet through my phone. The internet connection works with no slowdown with the phone call in operation.

Neilk 01-11-2011 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teenerted1 (Post 5777910)
please get off the road then!!!!!!

you cant be so stupid that you need GPS and verbal directions to find your way

Who said anything about driving?

What if you are on the phone with someone and you want to check movie listings or find a restaurant on UrbanSpoon or something? Can't do it with Verizon.

Halm 01-11-2011 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 5777962)
I can do this on T-Mobile, with an HD2.

The HD2 is a great phone and WM6.5 is a surprisingly decent OS, depending on your needs. If I were in your shoes, I wouldn't be in a hurry to "upgrade" to anything from CES 2011 unless there was a specific need.

VroomGrrl 01-11-2011 01:47 PM

All this is the reason that I was able to get a Droid Incredible for "FREE" (between free-every-2 upgrade discount, rebate & service credit).

So who wants to tell me how crappy my Droid Incredible will be? Regardless, it has to beat my LG EnV3(I HOPE?).

JavaBrewer 01-11-2011 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 5777914)
Will be interesting to see what happens with android sales due to this.

+1. Current ATT Captivate user that came over from iPhone 3GS. I still maintain that the iPhone does things a little cleaner that Android - especially if it's a Samsung/ATT offering. Wondering if current Android users will regret moving to the less customizable iPhone?

red-beard 01-11-2011 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halm (Post 5778011)
The HD2 is a great phone and WM6.5 is a surprisingly decent OS, depending on your needs. If I were in your shoes, I wouldn't be in a hurry to "upgrade" to anything from CES 2011 unless there was a specific need.

I do really like my HD2 and the HD7 was a downgrade! I do hate the on screen keyboard. My next smartphone will have a physical keyboard. The Dell offering looks like it is the closest to what I need.

It's funny, I use my old Treo Pro everytime I go to Mexico. I find that the screen size isn't that important. I need 3G and I really prefer the physical keyboard to the "pecking" on the screen unit. I've tried swype, but it isn't for me.

For any "serious" typing on the HD2, I bought a $10 bluetooth keyboard.

89911 01-11-2011 02:19 PM

I'm up for a new phone from Verizon and am considering the iPhone. Good article why I might wait.

Five reasons not to buy the Verizon iPhone ... yetBy Wilson Rothman

By now you may be overcome with excitement that the ever-inevitable-but-not-quite-tangible Verizon iPhone is here. Yes, finally, for the love of Pete, it's arrived. Time to buy it, right? Not so fast, hot shot. Before you buy the thing (and by the looks of it, it's quite a worthy phone), there are five reasons why you might want to wait, at least until June.

1. Verizon is pushing 4G, but iPhone is 3G
Verizon's chief priority for 2011 is to launch a 4G network that's faster and more reliable than the competition. Their showing at CES proves that they have the momentum and wherewithal to do this, and so far, the network itself seems to live up to the hype. Best of all, there are four Android phones slated to arrive by mid-year intended to navigate the waters of Verizon's LTE network like cigarette boats. So why do you want to stay in a 3G canoe?

2. Verizon's 3G is actually slower than AT&T's 3G
While I can state from years of testing and field experience that Verizon offers a more reliable 3G network, it really isn't as fast as AT&T's. Speed isn't everything, and what good is speed when the connection is poor? But still, you should know this, especially if you love streaming Netflix to your phone.

3. The iPhone might have inherent phone flaws
The iPhone has never been a great "phone." Its dropped calls are the stuff of legend. Its acolytes ignore the flaw with a stiff upper lip, instead praising its more reliable data-rich features. But the dropped calls are real. So, the question is, are they a network thing or a device thing?

Apple is content to let the blame fall on AT&T, but last summer's "Antennagate" showed that there's plenty of finger pointing to go around. I suspect it's a little of both, which is why I intend to test the Verizon iPhone carefully before letting any loved ones buy in.

4. The iPhone can't run voice and data simultaneously
While the technical separation of Verizon's voice and data networks may end up being a reason it drops fewer calls, this is viewed as a flaw by some people who wish to browse the Web while chatting. It's not as anti-social as it sounds: What if the person you're talking to really wants to see a movie with you ASAP? Someone's gotta Fandango that bizness.

5. iPhone 5 is due in June
Like Pavlov's tinkling bell, Steve Jobs' last four early summer iPhone news conferences have programmed iPhone enthusiasts to salivate as the weather gets balmier. This year won't be any different, given the financial power of the annual refresh for Apple, not to mention the fact that carriers all over the world literally bank on it.

The only mystery here in the United States is whether or not there will be a radio chipset in the fifth iPhone that lets it run on both the Verizon and AT&T network. A unified iPhone 5 makes sense, especially if it also supports 4G LTE data. But it would also make a whole lot of early Verizon iPhone buyers angry enough to grab pitchforks and torches. How Apple and Verizon will address this, maintaining both sales and customer confidence, is a true puzzlement.

Now that you know the five reasons not to buy one now, feel free to get in line, money in hand. Believe me, for gadget lovers who swear by Verizon's network, there's no shame in lusting, provided you enter into the transaction as an informed consumer.

tcar 01-11-2011 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VroomGrrl (Post 5778014)
All this is the reason that I was able to get a Droid Incredible for "FREE" (between free-every-2 upgrade discount, rebate & service credit).

So who wants to tell me how crappy my Droid Incredible will be? Regardless, it has to beat my LG EnV3(I HOPE?).

My Verizon LG EnV3 keyboard is worth a lot. Nice size, good feel. Plus other stuff.


LG EnV3 Review (slate blue, Verizon Wireless) - Cell Phones - CNET Reviews

enzo1 01-11-2011 04:06 PM

For every AT&T Android user there are 15 iPhone users: What will be the ratio at Verizon? | asymco

Halm 01-11-2011 04:26 PM

Gezzz. :rolleyes: What would you expect? iPhone has been AT&T's cash cow since its launch. The best Android phone they would carry was the Captivate. While a good phone, it is arguably a second class citizen to some of the Android phones on Verizon, Sprint, and even Cellular One!

Now that they are loosing the exclusive, AT&T is rolling out some kick @ss phones like 3 Windows Phone 7 devices and 3 (I think) of the best Android phones shown at CES. Clearly, you would not have seen that last year.

island911 01-11-2011 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 89911 (Post 5778080)
...
1. Verizon is pushing 4G, but iPhone is 3G....

This stunned me. I thought for sure, Verizon would insist on an iPhone 4G for debut on their network.

enzo1 01-11-2011 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halm (Post 5778351)
Gezzz. :rolleyes: What would you expect? iPhone has been AT&T's cash cow since its launch. The best Android phone they would carry was the Captivate. While a good phone, it is arguably a second class citizen to some of the Android phones on Verizon, Sprint, and even Cellular One!

Now that they are loosing the exclusive, AT&T is rolling out some kick @ss phones like 3 Windows Phone 7 devices and 3 (I think) of the best Android phones shown at CES. Clearly, you would not have seen that last year.

... does win 7 have Facetime, there in catch up mode . Android, not for me. They put a 400$ + price target on Apple today, guess we'll see. I don't want a copycat, I'll take the real thing, no reason not to

jyl 01-11-2011 05:00 PM

As a confirmed iPhone fan I will say:
- the android phones will get better and better. If not now, soon they will be every bit the equal of the current iPhone - with two differences. First, Android is a less controlled environment, meaning carriers have freedom to add their own hardware, software overlay and default apps to Android, phone makers ditto, and users ditto, and the result may be better or may be worse than what Apple does - and Apple sets the bar high, for clean and intuitive systems. Second, Google doesn't try as much (maybe at all) to control what apps can be used on Android or what they can do, which means you will be able to load ill-designed stuff that crashes the phone just as easily as good stuff that works smoothly.

So it will be like the Windows vs Mac difference, in a way.

And some people love Windows. More choice is good.

Until, that is, Apple comes up with the Next Big Thing. Having control over the hardware and the o/s and the main apps allows Apple to make things happen that are harder when dozens of different companies have to agree and design the thing in many interlocking pieces.

Suppose, for instance, it is a good idea for the phone to track your eye motion so that if you stare at one part of the screen, that part of the application automatically magnifies, thus making it as easy to use a 4" screen as a 10" screen. Apple could do this - put the necessary eye-tracking camera in the hardware, include the software in the o/s, and adapt the browser, mail client, etc to work with this feature. The Android ecosystem would have a harder time doing it - or doing it first. Just an example, that feature might be a terrible idea actually.

89911 01-12-2011 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 5778430)
Until, that is, Apple comes up with the Next Big Thing. Having control over the hardware and the o/s and the main apps allows Apple to make things happen that are harder when dozens of different companies have to agree and design the thing in many interlocking pieces.

.

Which you will pay for of course. I actually will have 3 phones up for contract renewal and will be getting my daughter the iphone when it comes out. I currently have the first Droid and it does everything I want, but would consider the next generation android phone in 4g when it comes out in a few months.

jyl 02-03-2011 09:12 AM

Update on Verizon data plans for iphone - "unlimited" for $30/mo and hotspot for $20/mo, but they will restrict bandwidth for the heaviest data users. Unlimited plan is presumably to attract the ATT iPhone users still on unlimited plans (like me). Verizon has said the unlimited plan will not be available indefinitely, they will eventually switch to only metered/tiered plans.

GH85Carrera 02-03-2011 10:13 AM

As a iPhone 4 owner I can say it is a great device.

BUT

I have to admit it is a 100% Apple device. The best description I have ever heard is "Apple makes most difficult tasks very easy, and a few simple tasks impossible."

On a regular basis friends send me email with an attached .wmv movie clip or a link to a video clip. I can't watch them on my iPhone. I have to use my regular computer to see the clip. A very simple task that is impossibe. :mad:

dondarnell 02-05-2011 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neilk (Post 5777725)
The whole not being able to talk on the phone while browsing seems like a deal killer.

I can imagine someone trying to pull up Google Maps on the iPhone while trying to talk to someone, oops, can't on Verizon.

It doesn't matter if you have that ability if you don't have a connection.

enzo1 02-05-2011 09:05 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1296972302.jpg

porsche4life 02-05-2011 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 5824675)
As a iPhone 4 owner I can say it is a great device.

BUT

I have to admit it is a 100% Apple device. The best description I have ever heard is "Apple makes most difficult tasks very easy, and a few simple tasks impossible."

On a regular basis friends send me email with an attached .wmv movie clip or a link to a video clip. I can't watch them on my iPhone. I have to use my regular computer to see the clip. A very simple task that is impossibe. :mad:

Its a phone... I bet the android phones wouldn't view the .wmv file either.... ;)

UconnTim97 02-07-2011 05:43 AM

I can view email attachments on my Motorola Droid phone with ease. :)

porsche4life 02-07-2011 05:47 AM

I can too, just not .wmv

GH85Carrera 02-07-2011 05:59 AM

If I jailbreak the phone it will play wmv and flash. It is not the hardware, just the OS.

UconnTim97 02-07-2011 06:52 AM

For android phones, there is an app to convert the files to a playable format. I imagine there is an app for the iPhone too.

Rich76_911s 02-07-2011 07:46 AM

I can watch .wmv files on my driod incredible without converting them.

UconnTim97 02-07-2011 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich76_911s (Post 5832177)
I can watch .wmv files on my driod incredible without converting them.

Cool, I just checked and .wmv files work on my Droid as well. :)

Halm 02-07-2011 08:13 AM

For Android, get Rock Player. Very nice media type player.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:24 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website


DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.