Katrina-looting, Earthquake-civility

[strupgolf]

What a difference a country makes. I was struck by the film from Japan showing people lined up at the local grocery store WAITING IN LINE to buy only 10 items. Such a contrast to our Katrina showing the scum looting stores all over town, not for nesessities, but for beer, TV's, cigarettes, etc. Oh well, I guess it's how you're brought up.

[GothingNC]

I noticed the same thing.

If someone was not able to walk, a stranger would stop and carry the person on their back to safety.

[look 171]

What does that tell you about us. Sad isn't it? You would think there must be some bad apples there too. Some how I fail to see that. I sure they think about it.

[Rikao4]

knew our residents would loot..
LEO's doing the same..
did suprised me a little...

the Japanese will thank the clerk..
and hold the door for the next person..

Rika

[masraum]

I lived in Japan for about 5 years when I was younger. The Japanese are an amazing people. It's hard to imagine that they are the same folks that carried out such amazing atrocities on their own during the feudal years and in war time.

I suspect that there are lots of factors involved (societal, cultural, economic) with the differences between the two scenes that you described. I don't think that I'd use New Orleans after Katrina as an indication of the entire US.

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by look 171

What does that tell you about us. Sad isn't it? You would think there must be some bad apples there too. Some how I fail to see that. I sure they think about it.

You got a mouse in your pocket?
Katrina looting was a cultural thing and one that I do not subcribe to.
Same with the rodney king riots, I was on the other side where the good guys were.
Note I did not say a rqcial thing, there were low-lifes of every color and race acting up in those riots. Some outnumbered others by quite a bit but almost all were represented.
They shared a common culture to some extent, the same way some wear their pants down around their knees and their hats on sideways.

It does reflect negatively on all of us because we are so stupidly PC we won't tell it like it is, we make excuses for low-lifes, we look the other way and we allow groups of people to act like that.
Too many in this country have a screwed up sense of liberal entitlement and they think they are OWED a living, that's undoubtedly a root cause.

If we slapped people like that when they act like tools and stopped giving them everything they want and made them earn their way through life or do without, they'd straighten up.

[Evans, Marv]

What Sammy said. Having worked with the welfare community in the past, I can attest to the sense of entitlement and avoidance of responsible behavior.

[Rikao4]

face it..
our hoomies would be checking pockets and taking rings..

Rika

[onewhippedpuppy]

It's local culture, not American culture. When a small Midwestern town is destroyed by a tornado, you don't see looting or residents complaining that the govt isn't doing enough to help. You see neighbors helping neighbors dig out and rebuild.

[look 171]

Sammy, I know its cultura. I couldn't agree with you more. If looting of Televisions and such were to occur in Japan, do you think their citizens would do something? I think they would.

WHat if there's a small group of these looting low lifes from the us living in Japan and they starts looting, what do youthink the Japanese citizens will do?

[masraum]

Originally Posted by look 171

what do you think the Japanese citizens will do?

I know, I know, Kung Fu is Chinese, not Japanese, and this is a serious discussion. I'm sorry, I just couldn't help myself.

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by GothingNC

If someone was not able to walk, a stranger would stop and carry the person on their back to safety.

this happened frequently during Katrina

[Dottore]

Originally Posted by masraum

I lived in Japan for about 5 years when I was younger. The Japanese are an amazing people. It's hard to imagine that they are the same folks that carried out such amazing atrocities on their own during the feudal years and in war time.

Not really. Japanese discipline, politesse, reserve and polish are balanced out by a huge dark side. Check out Japanese crime shows or Japanese sexual predilections or Japanese reality television, or talk to some Japanese about their insularity and the deep and abiding racism. Or the huge social problems with alcoholism, pedophilia, suicide etc etc. They're very good at keeping these things below the surface (Japanese themselves joke about this "iceberg" phenomenon)—but it's always right there.

I hope it isn't politically incorrect to say this—but I'm merely being descriptive.

[RWebb]

or talk to some Japanese women...

[Dottore]

Originally Posted by RWebb

or talk to some Japanese women...

Or bonk one.

Just bring your snorkel and flippers.

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by Dottore

Not really. Japanese discipline, politesse, reserve and polish are balanced out by a huge dark side. Check out Japanese crime shows or Japanese sexual predilections or Japanese reality television, or talk to some Japanese about their insularity and the deep and abiding racism. Or the huge social problems with alcoholism, pedophilia, suicide etc etc. They're very good at keeping these things below the surface (Japanese themselves joke about this "iceberg" phenomenon)—but it's always right there.

I hope it isn't politically incorrect to say this—but I'm merely being descriptive.

Someone check the surface temp in Hell, 'cause I actually agree with something Dottore says...

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by Dottore

Or bonk one.

Just bring your snorkel and flippers.

This needs clarification.

[lukeh]

I noticed the same thing with the Super Bowl. LA, Oakland, Detroit... wins a title and you get people burning cars, looting and going on a rampage. Green Bay wins one and they just throw another brat on the grill.

[strupgolf]

Yes, it sure is a local cultural thing. You wont see that crap in the midwest, small town flooding crisis. Some of the worst scenes are from some of our worst cities based on their culture of entitlement's and "I want mine" type attitude. It's a shame.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by lukeh

I noticed the same thing with the Super Bowl. LA, Oakland, Detroit... wins a title and you get people burning cars, looting and going on a rampage. Green Bay wins one and they just throw another brat on the grill.

THat's really sad. I agree with you and it aint getting better.