i have mini GLOCK 40. the chamber is empty. it lives in the tank bag of my BMW RT. sometimes in my back pocket. i will probably never fire on anyone. the glock. we just get along. bottom line.

Only one suggestion - don't.

Carrying a concealed weapon is a huge responsibility. Doing so requires a very high level of maturity, common sense, and situational awareness. One must be absolutely willing and able to control one's self, and to take full responsibility for one's actions. One must be able to think rationaly and remain calm under a great deal of stress. One must be willing to commit to the required training and continuing practice necessary to first become, then remain proficient with one's chosen weapon.

Your childish attitude on this forum clearly demonstrates you lack these qualities. For your own safety, and for the safety of those around you, please remain unarmed. You are just not up to it.

I'll give you $100 today! You'd better act fast, this offer won't be around forever. :D

i have a sig226 and a glock 21. does one feel safer than the other? no. i never put my finger on the trigger, unless i am firing. i check both chambers prior to dissassembly.

i kinda like having to "fire" the glock trigger prior to taking it down. it pretty much double checks the chamber for me. the click is a tactile, audible..confirmation. i dont aim it anywhere soft and living. works for me.

but i do admit, it is a heated debate.

An XD is largely patterned after a Glock. They are very similar, it does not surprise me that the XD shares the same design flaws as the Glock as well.

Another of which wrt the Glock (and all internal striker fired pistols), is the lack of a protruding striker, which effectively totally eliminates re holstering accidents, just as does a hammer.

Actually, you are an idiot per mr. sniper.

Sure hope you have the time to chamber a round. You may not. Keeping a condition 3 weapon totally negates any perceived advantage of the simplicity of operation of a glock. I keep a round chambered at all times in any weapon i am carrying. If it has a manual safety, that is engaged as well.

I hear a whole lot of the "cant happen to me" syndrome anytime i read a thread about the safety of glocks.

I am sure that every cop and citizen and former NFL player who has blown a chunk of themselves off with a glock has thought the very same thing...until it happened to them. And with a glock, a pistol with the most spartan of safety features, it is far more likely to happen to you than any other pistol.

If you're safe with a glock, you'll be much safer with a DAO or a pistol with a manual safety. Even safer with a pistol that has a protruding striker/hammer. Safer yet with a pistol that has an LCI. So on and so on and so on.

Let's face it....people are morons. Haven't any of you ever been to a public range? Why do you think you have to put your foot on the brake before you can shift your car into drive? Because morons kill people. Morons with cars, and morons with Glocks. And i don't feel like getting ventilated through the ribcage by the guy in the lane next to me that is waving around his hair trigger glock.
Hip hopsters love the damn things, and they wouldn't know what good gun safety is if you wrote them a rap video about it. Any average citizen (or worse) would be much safer in all administrative duties with a pistol like a S&W 3rd gen auto, or a P7, or any pistol with a manual safety, or a mag safety, an LCI, or a DAO, and preferably a design that does not require one to pull the trigger before disassembly.

And honestly, i don't need a pistol that even a 18 month old child could fire totally unassisted. A LOT of cops kids have shot themselves or others with mommy or daddy the policeman's glock.

On paper, for an elite level operator, a Glock is a serviceable (yet unremarkable) choice. However, in the real world- the real world full of failable human beings (alas, not a single one of us here is perfect, and odds are, almost every one of us has done a few VERY stupid things in their lifetime)....

Ironically, the elite groups that are most suited to using a Glock don't have any use for them. They all use DA HK's with manual safeties, or DA Sigs (And for a very long time, the HK P7 was a huge favorite among SWAT teams all over the US, and police forces all over the world.)

I would rather have a .357 magnum revolver, or virtually any modern autopistol than any model glock.

Snipe,

Selling my Five-Seven tomorrow. I just never shoot the damn thing and decent ammo is too much $$.

Well, I just got my main carry SIG back from Robar today, so the Glock goes back to GA for night sights and a free factory refurb on Monday. Still love my Glock, but I love my SIG's more. Both guns are deathtraps in the hands of idiots and totally innocuous to anyone else.

Let's see Jeff I start off asking a simple question about where someone lives requiring them to carry a loaded firearm and the first answers I get insult where I live and call me naive, all from a guy who says he lives in a place he calls Killadelphia. I've lived in California for the most part of 64 years without incident that would require me to draw a weapon on anyone, so who has made the adult decisions here requiring getting along in this world and who started off with a childish, presumptive attitude. My post, asking about a firearm, was made in jest as I do not consider one essential to living life. You and what's his face, who lives in Killadelphia, are the immature and bottom feeder element that make this forum a conflict every time someone posts something because you seem to have some need to put others down, I guess so you can feel better about yourselves. You don't know me and neither did Killer so perhaps you should start showing some maturity yourselves and stop trying to be smugly superior.

No, ronster, sorry - no sale. You started out trolling, pretty quickly escalated to calling another poster a "paranoid moron", and continued to troll from there. Some of us simply have no patience for your kind, regardless of how clever you may think you are. We've seen all of your tricks before. Yawn...

Robar'd sig!
 

Rick,
Can you post some pics of the results? I have a Sig P229 that I'm considering getting redone as it is a used LEO gun with holster wear. This thread has already gone off the rails, so I don't feel bad about "hijacking" it. Thanks!!! I've enjoyed the discussion here, just not the name calling and childish attitudes...

This P229 was a police turn-in, got it from CDNN for $392 delivered and it came with night sights and Hogue grips. Smoking deal. I sent it to Robar for NP3, though NP3 is very hard to photograph correctly. It always looks way better in person.

http://fototime.com/5BE3C7FC87200B4/standard.jpg

http://fototime.com/40E82988FD5AEFB/standard.jpg

http://fototime.com/4B0E3D8CD0B0F29/standard.jpg

http://fototime.com/A24DCA6710955A5/standard.jpg

And to make Sniper happy, here's a P7 in hard chrome I bought around the same time.

http://fototime.com/FA49CC51AD85A83/standard.jpg

Another one I had Robar do in NP3.

http://fototime.com/AFB366A02370FC3/standard.jpg

Rick,
That looks great! My brother had Robar do his Sig P239 and I may send them my Sig P229 to NP3, since it's got holster wear and is 100% stock. Those spoons look fantastic!!

My P239 NP3'ed slide started turning black from rubbing against my sweaty back after a few years. But Robar has a lifetime warranty and they're right down the street from me. So the P239 looks new again. Will post photos of my P226 in NP3 soon. It looks amazing.

Bah, is it gone yet? How much do you want for it?

I'm still looking for a good deal on a used Five Seven USG model.

Rick, those scratches on the squeezecocker of your P7 are caused by overtightening the grip screws. If you back them out a little and use some mild loctite on them, they will not get any worse.


While i stand by my assertion that this is a stupid design flaw, i have thought about it, and there are some low quality cheap zinc firearms that require one to pull the trigger before disassembly as well. There are probably also some higher quality striker operated firearms that demand this, but it is not a necessary design "feature."

A P7, for instance, is striker fired, and does not require one to pull the trigger before disassembly.

A P7 (and no doubt some other designs) also has a protruding striker, which in and of itself can virtually eliminate re holstering accidents (as can an external hammer). Internal striker autopistols are extremely prone to such accidents when the user is stressed/tired/physically exhausted or otherwise distracted and simply forgets to remove his finger from the trigger, OR when the leather retention strap of their holster or some other piece of equipment or foreign debris gets snagged inside the trigger guard as the pistol is re holstered.

With a protruding striker (like the P7) or external hammer pistol (like a sig or many countless other designs), one simply puts their thumb over the hammer or the hole in the rear of the slide where the striker protrudes, creating a physical barrier that absolutely prevents a re holstering accident from occurring even if your finger is on the trigger- even if the wind has blown your drawstring or a twig or some other foreign object into your holster. (as has happened, and as i have linked to earlier in this thread)

A glock, an XD, a Kahr(a design i actually really like largely because it's DAO) and many other internal striker designs are far, far more prone to re-holstering accidents for this very reason...sometimes even through no real fault of the user.

None of us can say we have never made a serious mistake or error in judgement when we were tired or physically exhausted or highly stressed. To do so is only human. Some mechanical devices are far, far more forgiving of user error than others.

It's just that simple.

Maybe some one needs to mold up a cover that slips over a g-lock trigger gaurd that prevents someone from putting their buuger hook on the trigger.

It would have a finger slot that you could dig a finger tip into and with a flick of your finger you could snap it off.

Of course you could add a leash to it to stop people from losing it.

It's gone, $950 with 4 mags and a few holsters.

Ahhh, i woulda bought that. :-/

A coworker said CDNN has them for $829 right now. I still have a few hundred rounds of white box SS195 from before they slowed them down.

Thanks, i'll check that out.

A FIX for a STUPID IDEA!

Got to love it!