 
					|  | 
 | 
 | 
| 
 | 
| Registered | 
				
				Reliable Hard Drive?
			 
			I seem to have at least one hard drive failure a year.  Not sure if they aren't making HDDs the way they used to, or if we use HDDs a lot harder now. The Western Digital 500GB external drive I use for Time Machine backups is acting bad. I'm going to replace it. What is your recommendation for the most reliable external drive of 500GB-1TB capacity? In general, are their any rules for getting a more reliable hard drive? Better and worse brands? Slow rpm better or high rpm? 2.5" vs 3.5"? 
				__________________ 1989 3.2 Carrera coupe; 1988 Westy Vanagon, Zetec; 1986 E28 M30; 1994 W124; 2004 S211 What? Uh . . . “he” and “him”? | ||
|  | 
 | 
| The Unsettler | 
			In general I avoid WD.  Have had noting but bad luck with them. Hitachi for 2.5 and Seagate for 3.5 have always been rock solid for me. Always 7200. 
				__________________ "I want my two dollars" "Goodbye and thanks for the fish" "Proud Member and Supporter of the YWL" "Brandon Won" | ||
|  | 
 | 
| Registered Join Date: Mar 2003 
					Posts: 10,364
				 | 
			Go internal and go w/ RAID - RAID-1 at the minimum, RAID-5 preferred.   Yes, this means you may end up building a cheap box to do it with... but you'll have redundancy...
		 
				__________________ “IN MY EXPERIENCE, SUSAN, WITHIN THEIR HEADS TOO MANY HUMANS SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN THE MIDDLE OF WARS THAT HAPPENED CENTURIES AGO.” | ||
|  | 
 | 
| Registered | 
			I've had good luck with all brands and bad luck with all brands - in my opinion it's a crap shoot. My currrent stable houses WD, Seagate and Hitachi. My dead pile is full of WD, Seagate and Hitachi (used to be called the IBM Deathstar) I just buy whatever Newegg has on sale and go with it. Plan on replacing every couple of years or at the first hint of trouble such as noise, clicking, hard to boot, etc. 
				__________________ Randy '87 911 Targa '17 Macan GTS | ||
|  | 
 | 
| Get off my lawn! | Quote: 
 It is just amazing how cheap the hard drives have become. I bought a 500 MB (yes 500 meg not gig) Seagate drive at an employee price for a bargain of only 500 bucks. One dollar a meg. And 500 megs was a HUGE drive back then. The biggest drives were only one gig. We just bought several 2 TB drives that are the same physical size. 
				__________________ Glen 49 Year member of the Porsche Club of America 1985 911 Carrera; 2017 Macan 1986 El Camino with Fuel Injected 350 Crate Engine My Motto: I will never be too old to have a happy childhood! | ||
|  | 
 | 
| Registered | 
			I'm now a big fan of SSDs for the primary (OS + apps) drive, and my Macs don't have room for >1 internal drive, so I am stuck with external drives for data and backup.  Have debated buying/building a RAID enclosure with hot-swap, as restoring after HDD failures is a pain.   The iMac is going to be replaced very soon here, looking at a Mac Mini with dual monitors, 256GB SSD, 8 GB DRAM, then multiple external drives for data and backup. The external drives are cheap (1TB for $100!) but spending $100/yr to replace plus 1 day/yr on recovery is getting irritating. 
				__________________ 1989 3.2 Carrera coupe; 1988 Westy Vanagon, Zetec; 1986 E28 M30; 1994 W124; 2004 S211 What? Uh . . . “he” and “him”? | ||
|  | 
 | 
|   | 
| Make Bruins Great Again | 
			One thing to add: if you are using an external HD for backup then shut it off when not needed.    Personally, I've not had good experiences with Western Digital internal HD's. I had 3 go out in 4 years. 
				__________________ -------------------------------------- Joe See Porsche run. Run, Porsche, Run: `87 911 Carrera | ||
|  | 
 | 
| Registered | 
			All of our enterprise class systems use Fujitsu.  They may be branded HP, or SUN, or IBM but at the core they are Fujitsu.  I use the 15K's at home on my desktop, however I don't know if MAC supports SAS natively.  But they are the fastest, and I believe rated the most reliable drives. Newegg.com - FUJITSU - Storage/Hard Drive 
				__________________ 2021 Model Y 2005 Cayenne Turbo 2012 Panamera 4S 1980 911 SC 1999 996 Cab | ||
|  | 
 | 
| Registered Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Seattle 
					Posts: 1,785
				 | 
			I used to use the Fujitsu and sometimes Seagate 10k and 15k rpm drives, super reliable. My main system even had 3 of them in a RAID for redundancy and speed. I've since dropped them for an SSD though. Save a lot of power, reduces all the disk noise, and my first gen Intel SSD is about 2x as fast as my 3x15k drives. 
				__________________ Rob 1980 SC - 2011 Tiguan - 2018 Tesla M3P | ||
|  | 
 | 
| abides. | 
			The only thing I have to add is that you might want to check your enclosure cooling. I've seen good drives fail very quickly when placed too close together in cases with too little air circulation.
		 
				__________________ Graham 1984 Carrera Targa | ||
|  | 
 | 
| Registered Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: AZ 
					Posts: 8,414
				 | 
			You might try and source enterprise/server drives.  They seem to be built to last (longer) and/or have better QC.
		 | ||
|  | 
 | 
| Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 
					Posts: 6,930
				 | 
			Lacie rugged for me. I also have a 2tb G drive but I don't know how reliable it is yet.
		 | ||
|  | 
 | 
|   | 
| Registered Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kenbridge VA 
					Posts: 4,285
				 | 
			I had an Iomega external that crapped out after about a year.  I think my problem was leaving it on all the time.
		 
				__________________ Peppy 2011 BMW 335d 1988 Targa 3.4  2001 Jetta TDI dead 1982 Chevette Diesel SOLD   | ||
|  | 
 | 
| 19 years and 17k posts... | 
			I've been buying and using Western Digital Caviar Black hard drives, usually the 2TB model and I've been very happy with them. All of the cheap, fast hard drives out in the marketplace today are garbage, be sure everything is backed up!
		 
				__________________ Art Zasadny 1974 Porsche 911 Targa "Helga" (Sold, back home in Germany) Learning the bass guitar Driving Ford company cars now... www.ford.com | ||
|  | 
 | 
| winter-hater club member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: salt lake city, utah 
					Posts: 24,705
				 | 
			i like samsung HDD's.  YMMV.
		 
				__________________ 2000 Corvette - ????, 2007 Buell XB9R - Astrid, 1996 Discovery - Piglet, 2000 Forester "COOL PRIUS!" - Nobody Ever | ||
|  | 
 | 
| Slackerous Maximus Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Columbus, OH 
					Posts: 18,206
				 | 
			The ladies say I'm always on time.
		 
				__________________ 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor. 2012 Harley Davidson Road King 2014 Triumph Bonneville T100. 2014 Cayman S, PDK. Mercedes E350 family truckster. | ||
|  | 
 | 
| Cogito Ergo Sum | 
			I've heard you tend to go out too soon....
		 | ||
|  | 
 | 
| Cogito Ergo Sum | |||
|  | 
 | 
| Registered | 
			Maxtor was bought by Seagate some years ago.  Toshiba bought Fujitsu's HDD biz.  Seagate is also buying Samsung's HDD biz.  Western Digital is buying Hitachi.   There will be only three HDD makers: Western Digital will be the largest, Seagate next, and Toshiba/Fujitsu (mostly 2.5"). I am thinking I'll have to bite the bullet and get a RAID, hot-swappable storage box like the Drobo. With more of our lives stored on HDDs, and HDDs getting seemling less reliable, relying on a single HDD is not going to work, even with regular backups. Link (no affiliation, don't own one, not endorsing) Data Robotics Drobo | DroboWorks.com I recently realized we have 5 HDDs in constant use - MacBook, iMac, Time Capsule backup, TIVO w/ 2 drive. No wonder I'm getting a failure per year. 
				__________________ 1989 3.2 Carrera coupe; 1988 Westy Vanagon, Zetec; 1986 E28 M30; 1994 W124; 2004 S211 What? Uh . . . “he” and “him”? | ||
|  | 
 | 
| Get off my lawn! | 
			We have been real happy with our two Buffalo RAIDS. They are pure network drives. No computer is needed to run them, plug em in and go. They are not hot swappable so they are not for mission critical use. It is real simple to power it down, put in a new drive and it will rebuild. Low cost and easy to use.
		 
				__________________ Glen 49 Year member of the Porsche Club of America 1985 911 Carrera; 2017 Macan 1986 El Camino with Fuel Injected 350 Crate Engine My Motto: I will never be too old to have a happy childhood! | ||
|  | 
 |