Need a New Daily Driver

[pwd72s]

Originally Posted by dtw

Mah-fkn FORD MUSTANG

Nope...on this board, even looking at a car by the only USA company to not become a willing ward of the state is verboten. Some cars I would consider pieces of krap mentioned here...but forget about this:

2008 FORD MUSTANG | Used MUSTANG | Salem, OR

[Tim Hancock]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

Nope...on this board, even looking at a car by the only USA company to not become a willing ward of the state is verboten.

Of the big three, Ford is the least distasteful due to the bailout crap, but I promised myself many years ago that I will NEVER buy a "UAW" built car again..... and I won't!!!!!!!!!

[pwd72s]

Well, Toyota and Nissan make reliable cars...

[Tim Hancock]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

Sorry to the BMW guys, but after owning two E36 BMWs I would not recommend one as a reliable DD. Fun to drive but cheaply made, I'd buy an E30 long before another E36.

No need to apologize Matt, but my 318,000 mile '92 E36 and a coworker's 200,000+ 94 E36 have been the best long term bang for the buck car purchases we have ever made. I know several independant German car mechanics who will also echo my sentiments about E36 quality/reliability.

Either you made some poor selections or were incredibly unlucky when buying your "two E36 BMWs". I am guessing they had been previously worked on by hacks or there previous owners beat them hard and then put them away wet.

[PorscheGAL]

We had a Scion TC. The little two door coupe. Traded it in with almost 200,000 miles on odo. Never did anything but oil changes and tires. Super reliable.

[Tobra]

Paul, I actually would consider a Focus RS, but they don't sell them here. New version, apparently the ST, is the replacement.
for the RS
Buddy just drove the 944 and says it is cherry, just did TB and water pump, all fluids. He spoke to the tech who went through it and he said you would be changing the oil for 4 years or 40,000 miles and that would be it. Have to get the TB tension checked after 1500 miles or something, but that sounds a bit fishy to me. It is at a stealership, and they are asking for WAY too much money, but it is very nice. I think I can get them to come off their price, because they are asking twice high book value on it. They were under $20K new for crying out loud.

I only drive 6-7 thousand miles a year, don't care about airbags or ABS, I always wear my seatbelt and have an understanding of threshold braking.

Trip to Kansas for a Boxter sounds cool though.

[nostatic]

Unless you're going to DIY I think the 944 is a mistake. I just don't believe the "oil and gas and nothing else" line. They are aging cars.

It really comes down to size - do you need room to carry stuff or just yourself and a passenger? If you want cheap and fun frankly a Miata seems to be the most inexpensive/reliable choice. Boxster could be good unless you get unlucky. These days I want a vehicle that works and I like having a warranty, but that isn't for everyone.

[porsche4life]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

Well, Toyota and Nissan make reliable cars...

You're right... Those 50,000 miles I have on my corrola have been so rough, no wait... All I have done is oil changes, its due for tires now too...

Originally Posted by Tobra

Have to get the TB tension checked after 1500 miles or something, but that sounds a bit fishy to me.
Totally legit. The belt will get loose after the first 1500, just retension and it is fine. A good 944 wrench can do it in under an hour.
It is at a stealership, and they are asking for WAY too much money, but it is very nice. I think I can get them to come off their price, because they are asking twice high book value on it. They were under $20K new for crying out loud.
Depends on the year... My '86 stickered around $30k. That being said, I wouldn't give more than $10k for any NA 944.

Originally Posted by nostatic

Unless you're going to DIY I think the 944 is a mistake. I just don't believe the "oil and gas and nothing else" line. They are aging cars.

As much as I love my 944, Todd is right, they are aging cars, expect some small issues.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Tim, I know we've had the E36 debate before. For me it was simply what I saw as low quality, both material and mechanical. Both of my previous cars were enthusiast owned and well maintained, they weren't neglected hack jobs. Maybe I just have higher expectations than most, but I've been far more impressed in the quality of the Mercedes and Porsches that I've owned.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Shameless plug, here's my Boxster for sale.

1999 Boxster - Fantastic Condition

[porsche4life]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

Tim, I know we've had the E36 debate before. For me it was simply what I saw as low quality, both material and mechanical. Both of my previous cars were enthusiast owned and well maintained, they weren't neglected hack jobs. Maybe I just have higher expectations than most, but I've been far more impressed in the quality of the Mercedes and Porsches that I've owned.

Just get an E36 M. They seem to be built to a higher standard. The only problem with my moms is the bearle wood around the shifter is cracking... But it is a 14yr old car...


Besides, the M is more fun to drive.

[porsche4life]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

...but forget about this:

2008 FORD MUSTANG | Used MUSTANG | Salem, OR

Man, I knew they were bad cars, but this one is so junky even the link is broken!

[scottmandue]

Time for my gratuitous Hyundai plug

New Hyundai Genesis coupe, under $30K, 300HP V6, RWD, 10 year 100K mile warranty

Hyundai Genesis Coupe Performance

No affiliation

[Z-man]

Originally Posted by porsche4life

As much as I love my 944, Todd is right, they are aging cars, expect some major issues.

Fixed it for you!

-Z-man, 944S2 owner. (NOT my daily driver)

[Tobra]

Sid, please go do that somewhere else

don't need to haul anything but my fat ass

I DIY for most stuff, don't mount tires or anything, I ain't afeared, but a miata sounds better and better, the wife will just hate that.

ooh, that Boxter in Kansas is yellow, and yellow is faster.

man alive they want a lot of dough for used cars

Where the heck is used car guy Kaisen? 3 pages and nothing, dude you are slipping.

[Tobra]

inside and out, ugly ass 924 interior, but oh so minty fresh, major issues? Zoltan you are harshin' my mellow man
Banker was plenty happy to see me, guess folks are not borrowing like they used to, 4.5% on a used car, yowza

[pwd72s]

Originally Posted by porsche4life

Man, I knew they were bad cars, but this one is so junky even the link is broken!

Came right up for me? What's the matter? Did you miss a payment on that new laptop?

[Shaun @ Tru6]

If considering a Boxster, go for 2000 and newer. these cars have a lot of updates and are CHEAP.

you could probably get this Boxster S for $11K, $12,500 delivered to your door. Guessing they are even cheaper in CA.

2000 Porsche Boxster S Convertible Low Miles

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by Tobra

inside and out, ugly ass 924 interior, but oh so minty fresh, major issues? Zoltan you are harshin' my mellow man
Banker was plenty happy to see me, guess folks are not borrowing like they used to, 4.5% on a used car, yowza

Nice,but......... No idea what they're asking, but I suspect you could get a far better car if you don't want a garage queen. Mileage notwithstanding, it's still a 1st gen 944. Why buy a time capsule to commute in? With a few miles on it you're looking at a $4k car.

[Tobra]

I would be driving it until someone in a minivan hit it or the wheels fall off, so depreciation would be a non-issue. They are asking 13,800, if I could not get it for well under 10,000 it would be no deal

I have searched around and have yet to find a boxter s that looks like the one. Biggest problem I have with buying a newish Porsche is that the local dealership is owned by someone I don't really care to do business with, sadly, that is where this car is sitting right now.