1911 buying advice needed

[svandamme]

So to do list :

- Got to store, pick out gun, fondle it while trying not to drool to much, pay 30%, get serial for application


- get certificate from gun club, that i'm a regular shooter
this sunday when the club secretary is @ the range

- get sign off from city hall, that i don't have any criminal history

already requested, should have it by monday

- medical sign off from my MD, that i'm fit and sane enough for guns

tuesday, work from home, then go to the MD for his signature

- fill in the forms, send em over to Bruges

- wait for the gubmint to get back to me, must be within 4 months


- Pay my 92,72 euro's

- The Fuzz makes a house call to check if i don't run a methlab or whatnot

- Pass theoretical test, about gun laws



- Pass the practical test , supervised by the fuzz, safe handling test
(i've seen every episode of The A-team, Full Metal Jacket, Platoon and Magnum PI : piece of cake)

- Drive 180 clicks, pickup The Precious, grab a brick of .45 ball, some lubicrant, and a lockable case, drive 180 clicks back home
( i did it in 1hour 15 minutes today, i had the Captital H&A in Hauling Ass fully covered)

- Strip and lube The Precious

- Go to the range and consume the marriage.




That's what needs to happen to get a gun in Belgium... And that's probably one of the easier countries in the EU, Holland is worse, France only allows certain non military calibers, UK i think is i think near impossible except for hunting , and even then.. (maybe a brit can chime in on that)

[Bill Douglas]

Here in New Zealand...

Join pistol club.

Attend at least a dozen times over six months.

Pass handling tests and oral tests - easy as they want you to pass.

During that 6 months they evaluate you as a suitable club member, not a wanabe gangsta.

Get form from pistol club, give to police, they give you a procurement form.

Yay, buy the gun.

Take the gun to police who view it check SNs etc and register it.

After that you need to maintain a pistol club membership and attend at least 6 times a year.

Or get a collectors license and not use the gun as a shooter.

Plus we have other rules like no carrying the gun around in the glove box. You have to be on your way to or from a pistol shooting range.

But, anyone over 16 can pass a simple test and buy as many rifles and shotguns as you wish. Even schoolboys are allowed .50BMGs. Also there is no register of rifles and shotguns here so you can buy and sell to whoever you wish as long as they show you a gun license.

[Jim Bremner]

Originally Posted by svandamme

So to do list :

- get certificate from gun club, that i'm a regular shooter
this sunday when the club secretary is @ the range

- get sign off from city hall, that i don't have any criminal history
already requested, should have it by monday

- medical sign off from my MD, that i'm fit and sane enough for guns
tuesday, work from home, then go to the MD for his signature

- fill in the forms, send em over to Bruges
Wednesday morning

- wait for the gubmint to get back to me, must be within 4 months
Rest of the month, July , August, September?, October?

- The Fuzz makes a house call to check if i don't run a methlab or whatnot

- Pass theoretical test, about gun laws

- Pass the practical test , supervised by the fuzz, safe handling test
(i've seen every episode of The A-team, Full Metal Jacket, Platoon and Magnum PI : piece of cake)

- Drive 180 clicks, pickup The Precious, grab a brick of .45 ball, some lubicrant, and a lockable case, drive 180 clicks back home
( i did it in 1hour 15 minutes today, i had the Captital H&A in Hauling Ass fully covered)

- Strip and lube The Precious>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MOST OF US " YANKS" STAY DRESSED WHEN WE LUBE THE PISTOL> YOU EURO DUDES ARE THE FREAKY!

- Go to the range and consume the marriage.







That's what needs to happen to get a gun in Belgium... And that's probably one of the easier countries in the EU, Holland is worse, France only allows certain non military calibers, UK i think is i think near impossible except for hunting , and even then.. (maybe a brit can chime in on that)

Get your 1911 as deep into the web of your hand as you can.

[HHI944]

Wow, really makes me appreciate SC. When I want to buy a gun:
Go in and point at what I want to buy
Hand over cash
Fill out ATF form with CWP #
Leave with gun


Although there's usually a lot of BSin and 'Oooooh, pretty, lemme see that one!' in between.

[svandamme]

Aw Jim, only now noticed you edit in my todo list.... LMAO

[Jim Bremner]

Originally Posted by svandamme

Aw Jim, only now noticed you edit in my todo list.... LMAO

Slick huh?

[Vintage Racer]

Originally Posted by HHI944

Wow, really makes me appreciate SC. When I want to buy a gun:
Go in and point at what I want to buy
Hand over cash
Fill out ATF form with CWP #
Leave with gun.

It's the same in GA, but we call it a GWCL.

I pointed at one yesterday.

The shop had just taken it in on a trade. It's about 10 years old and never been fired. It still had the original Colt-factory oil in it. It's cleaned and ready to go to the range tomorrow.


I always carry one of my Colt 1911s:


Range:

[Jim Bremner]

This is on my want list!

[svandamme]

next on my want list would be a loaded M1a

[HHI944]

Something like this will probably be my next 1911

[dtxscott]

Originally Posted by svandamme

next on my want list would be a loaded M1a

You have great taste! I've got an M1A in the SOCOM configuration. It is a really fun gun.

[azasadny]

This is the M1911A1 Remington Rand that I re-Parkerized a few weeks ago...

[Jim Bremner]

Mine has the ss barrel but no flash hider. I can't have one in California ( a muzzle brake is ok)

[svandamme]

Belgian law is al to like Cali, no flash hiders allowed either, Brakes ok.
same wih the magazines, i think 20 is verboten, 10 is ok.
No biggie, they are bolt on and old M14 flash hides are just bolt-on, right?As are old M14 magazines which can be found a collectors.

[Jim Bremner]

Originally Posted by svandamme

Belgian law is al to like Cali, no flash hiders allowed either, Brakes ok.
same wih the magazines, i think 20 is verboten, 10 is ok.
No biggie, they are bolt on and old M14 flash hides are just bolt-on, right?As are old M14 magazines which can be found a collectors.

You'll need the flash hider wrench to do the job. My flash hider is kept 6 miles away from my house.

[svandamme]

that makes you a flash hider hider or what?

[Jim Bremner]

Originally Posted by svandamme

that makes you a flash hider hider or what?

Why yes it does. It's a paper weight at my Dad's house

[svandamme]

All the papers have been aquired, signed off and sent by registred mail to the authorothaaaaay.

[jerryw]

Just saw this thread (a little late) but the BHP (P35's) are available in .40 S&W - more powerful than 9mm but not the full boat of a .45

You can also buy a 9mm barrel for the .40 to allow 2 calibres for the one gun

[BlueSkyJaunte]

While the GP35/BHP has a grand history behind it, IMHO they don't shoot as nicely "out of the box" as a 1911. The magazine disconnect and the long trigger reset make for a much less satisfying shooting experience. Not to say they aren't fun. All pistols are fun, in some way or another.

Congrats on the paperwork, Stijn. Red tape like that is reserved for such "nasty" things as short barreled rifles and sound suppressors, where I live.