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Question Really expensive wine

I'm no wine snob.
I like a little wine now and then. ( now would be fine )

We had some friends over for dinner last night.
They brought a $210 bottle.
Sells for $420 at one of the local gourmet restaurants.

The wine was very nice, I'll give you that.
I've had many sub $10 bottles that I liked just as much and three of the local groceries sell $2 bottles that are not bad.


Why do they sell wine for so much and why do people pay for it?


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Old 06-26-2011, 08:26 AM
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I think the real fun(challenge) is finding the sub $20..$15...$10 bottle.
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The finest wine in the world...is still just booze...
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I like cheapo wine. I just don't appreciate the difference enough to buy the expensive stuff. I remember when decent wine at the wineries in Napa and Sonoma were relatively cheap, under $20 a bottle. Now they're all trendy and in and it's crazy expensive. No thanks.

When I'm feeling rich, I'll splurge for some Vouvray, but never the high end bottles. Otherwise, if it's north of $10, it had better be a big bottle.
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The good stuff is subtly smooth with a more near perfect balance of acidity and flavor. A good red will change the opinion of a non red drinker. It's that good.

Taken with food, a great wine is the ultimate palate pleasure.
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My friend's wife work's at one of the local wineries and she is able to bring home the opened wine.

They brought a $50 Chardonnay, a $150 blend, a $170 Cabernet and the $210 region exclusive Cabernet.

Nice experience.


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Why do they sell wine for so much and why do people pay for it?


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A winery owner that I was aquainted with liked his Gallon Jug Twist Cap wine the best, and he could get anything he wanted because the Wine business is a very small communtiy in CA. So don't let nobody try and snow ya about how much better their swill is. it all is still dirt feet stomping down on grapes that the flies who just landed on cow dung walked on.
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The good stuff is subtly smooth with a more near perfect balance of acidity and flavor. A good red will change the opinion of a non red drinker. It's that good.

Taken with food, a great wine is the ultimate palate pleasure.
A little Cow Dung will do that to crushed grapes.
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I will sometime order a glass of good ( expensive ) wine when eating in a nice restaurant but the second glass is usually their house ripple.
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My advice?

Don't try the really good stuff. It makes it very hard to go back to plonk.
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what was it and what year was it?

it's all just supply & demand

Look at Porsches - you are familiar with the supply of early 911s vs. bumper car 911s vs. 550s - right?

The demand side is driven not just by taste (driving fun) but also by bragging rights.

An old French wine from a very tasty single vineyard in Burgundy can cost $4,000 or more.

Bordeaux can also taste pretty good -- for a blend.
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A neighbor that is a VERY successful cardiologist bought a case of recently found Czar Nicholas Port from the 1800s. They were auctioned through Sotheby's for $1200 per bottle! He's opened 4 bottles so far, one was vinegar, one was pretty bad and the other two were incredible. I had one glass (of the good stuff)....I described it as Nectar of the Gods. I've had some really good wine and never tasted anything like this.
He says he knows people that will pay big bucks just for the empty bottles.
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Very expensive whine: "So when are we going to get married?" (not really but a great joke).
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I really like the Rose D'Anjou from the Loire Valley. It also costs me only $12.

On the flip side, I've tasted $100 Rieslings that I absolutely hated.
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I guess one acquires a taste for better wines. Used to be I couldn't tell white from red blindfolded, and Mateus was fine. Now I actually appreciate a good wine. Typically I shop in the $12 - $24 range for wine at home, and although I am occasionally given better, I can't say I really have the palet to appreciate it.
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I love red wine. But I can tell you that once it gets more than about $15 per bottle...there is little difference. What that means is that a $415 bottle of red tastes about the same as a $15 bottle from Publix.

Wine connoisseurs THINK that they can taste a difference; that's fine. I can't, and since I am the one drinking the wine [and have nothing to prove], I don't really care what they think.

Livingston and Vendange? URK! Ughhh! "Wine-like substances"!

There is a DEFINITE gradient in quality at the bottom of the scale, but at the top? Again, in my opinion, $15 bottle is the tipping point.

Red wine, of course. I prefer a dry Italian chianti personally.

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He says he knows people that will pay big bucks just for the empty bottles.
That is so that youan pass off a FINE JUG wine for the more expensive stuff.
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I don't have the taste for fine wine, like cigars, I can't tell the dif between a $10 one and a $30 one.
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How about $4k per glass for 2 glasses ... thats what a buddy's wife ended up paying for 2 glasses after a DUI conviction (1st offense) ...
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I drank the best wine I have ever tasted last night

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