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motion 07-23-2011 05:20 PM

My mouse scrolling is now backwards. Turned off natural scrolling and now its back to normal.

The new Mail app is so alien I couldn't do anything. Put it back into classic mode. Have it almost back to looking the old way.

Safari seems faster. I just hope its more stable.

Had to update my mail spam plug-in.

Will keep digging...

nostatic 07-23-2011 05:23 PM

I'll let you guys beta test for awhile :p

jyl 07-23-2011 05:45 PM

From what I hear, you need to get the magic pad to really see the UI changes in Lion - multi finger gestures, swiping, twisting, pinching, etc like iOS - Apple is trying to converge iOS and Mac OS - Launchpad looks like iOS Home. full screen looks like iOS app mode, App Store looks like your iPhone's App Store

There is a master plan behind all this. Apple is leading the convergence of PC and smartphone and tablet.

I think in another few cycles, there will be a single OS for Apple, it will recognize what device it is running on, screen size of X and CPU type of Y and input device Z, and it will configure itself for the device and the app will too. Then instead of however many applications for Mac OS and however many apps for iOS today, there will be a huge number of apps for either and both. Developers writing for the converged Apple OS will be addressing a much larger user base than if they had to choose between writing for Macs or for iPhones separately.

Apple will be able to use either ARM or Intel CPUs as it wishes, at the same time ARMs will be far more powerful than today and Intels will be far more power-efficient than today (or Intel is in big trouble).

I imagine Apple will push this really hard in the coming few years. Microsoft is trying to catch up with Windows mobile but I'm not sure how far along it is in getting its PC and handset/tablet OS on the same code base. Google doesn't have a PC OS at all, although I guess Chrome is an effort.

willtel 07-23-2011 06:36 PM

My Time Machine backups have stopped working. I had been backing up to an Iomega NAS device. Apparently Apple has updated the netatalk protocol and won't allow the OS to talk to older devices anymore. An update will be needed for the NAS device before they will work again. I can still use it for file storage but Time Machine and using NAS for remote iTunes storage stopped working.

motion 07-27-2011 09:45 AM

My verdict: Big pile of steaming dog doo. I don't use a touchpad 99% of the time, so all that stuff is not going to benefit me. Safari keeps crashing, with frequent spinning beach balls. I have to keep resetting my cable modem when internet performance lags. Switching between apps is taking too long... there's some serious memory performance issues. Machine has crashed too much. Blah, blah, blah.

RedBaron 07-27-2011 10:13 AM

Quote:

My verdict: Big pile of steaming dog doo. I don't use a touchpad 99% of the time, so all that stuff is not going to benefit me. Safari keeps crashing, with frequent spinning beach balls. I have to keep resetting my cable modem when internet performance lags. Switching between apps is taking too long... there's some serious memory performance issues. Machine has crashed too much. Blah, blah, blah.
Did you do a clean install or just an upgrade?

Deschodt 07-27-2011 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 6154072)
From what I hear, you need to get the magic pad to really see the UI changes in Lion - multi finger gestures, swiping, twisting, pinching, etc like iOS -


Winner winner Chicken dinner !

With a mouse it's not all that big a development. In fact I think I liked the old interface better, looks wise (grey scroll bars, ugh). Mail is noticeably better, autosave is good, the autocorrect is not bad either. That was pretty much the extent of Lion for me for me...

But then I saw a friend at work with with a track pad, gesturing away like a fool, and it looked pretty cool, in a "minority report" kind of way (the scene when T.Cruise uses gestures to move stuff around his giant holographic screen). Pinch this, maximize that, slide from app to app, very elegant. It takes some retraining for sure... Friend said it took him 3 days to rewire his brain to the upside down scrolling metaphor ;-)

$29, not bad...

motion 07-27-2011 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBaron (Post 6161403)
Did you do a clean install or just an upgrade?

Downloaded the upgrade.

Deschodt 07-27-2011 10:55 AM

I had zero crashes, but noticed some performance issues initially. Starcraft 2 for instance was dog slow, 4 Fps... Opening Photoshop was slower.

I read later that Lion needs some time to do some major reindexing for spotlight, and it does this in the background, slowing everything down. Sure enough all was well the next day.

Let's be honest though, it's not a MUST UPGRADE deal. If you don't use a track pad and can wait a few months till they patch it some more, it'll probably be an easier experience.

stomachmonkey 07-27-2011 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by motion (Post 6161491)
Downloaded the upgrade.

I think he was asking did you backup then wipe the drive and do a fresh install or did you just run the install on top of Snow Leopard.


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