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RedBaron 07-20-2011 07:53 PM

New Apple Operating System: 10.7 "Lion"
 
Just did a clean install. Overall I'm very impressed. My only complaint is the fact that they screwed up spaces and expose and turned it into "mission control." I also got rid of the optical drive in my mac and purchased a 40GB SSD from OWC which houses the "OS" and I have my 500GB 7200RPM which houses the "data." Overall, the OS is lightening fast on my three year old macbook pro. Well worth the $30 for an upgrade...They should deffinitely fix spaces though.

enzo1 07-20-2011 07:55 PM

no bugs? looking forward to it, been reading about it....and it's cheap

widgeon13 07-21-2011 06:46 AM

I want but the speed of my connection, probably take a day to download 4 GB. Maybe in a week or so.

stomachmonkey 07-21-2011 07:09 AM

I like that they did away with the family pack and the $30 is valid for every iTunes authorized computer that have.

Nice.

Buckterrier 07-22-2011 04:01 AM

Damn I wish I knew more about puters. I'd try installing

Shaun @ Tru6 07-22-2011 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckterrier (Post 6151011)
Damn I wish I knew more about puters. I'd try installing

Mark, if you can click, you can install.

Buckterrier 07-22-2011 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 6151026)
Mark, if you can click, you can install.

Hey Shaun
I guess I'm more concerned on what happens to the other OS things like that. And the guys concerns over some window thingies :confused:

EarlyPorsche 07-22-2011 04:31 AM

If I buy it once can I put it on both my macs? Maybe I'll just get the thumb drive from apple.

stomachmonkey 07-22-2011 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by EarlyPorsche (Post 6151044)
If I buy it once can I put it on both my macs? Maybe I'll just get the thumb drive from apple.

Yes. Just needs to be authorized to the iTunes account.

jeffgrant 07-22-2011 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 6151081)
Yes. Just needs to be authorized to the iTunes account.

Not true. You just have to log into the App Store on the machine you want to install it on, and it will recognize it as a previous purchase and allow you to download and install it.

The account is linked to your iTunes account for payment, but there is no concept of "authorized computer" in the App Store like there is in iTunes.

The license says you can install it on any computer you own or control.

I've just upgraded 5 machines in my home office, and 3 of them have never run iTunes, never mind been an iTunes authorized computer.

EDIT: To be clear, I interpreted your comment to mean you have to have an iTunes authorized computer, which is a specific requirement for some audio books, etc., as I've seen others mention. If that wasn't your meaning, apologies... just trying to add clarification.

stomachmonkey 07-22-2011 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffgrant (Post 6151461)
Not true. You just have to log into the App Store on the machine you want to install it on, and it will recognize it as a previous purchase and allow you to download and install it.

The account is linked to your iTunes account for payment, but there is no concept of "authorized computer" in the App Store like there is in iTunes.

The license says you can install it on any computer you own or control.

I've just upgraded 5 machines in my home office, and 3 of them have never run iTunes, never mind been an iTunes authorized computer.

EDIT: To be clear, I interpreted your comment to mean you have to have an iTunes authorized computer, which is a specific requirement for some audio books, etc., as I've seen others mention. If that wasn't your meaning, apologies... just trying to add clarification.

Correct, should have said needs authenticating with your Apple ID.

jeffgrant 07-22-2011 09:02 AM

Also, if you download it on one computer, quit the installer when it automatically launches, and look under your Applications folder. You'll see the installer file. You can copy that to other machines and install from it if you don't want to re-download the installer every time.

Once you've copied it, go ahead and re-launch it, and carry on with your installation.

jeffgrant 07-22-2011 09:05 AM

And if you have multiple Macs in an environment and want to set up your own local update server, rather than have each machine download from Apple, I'd recommend looking at Reposado

https://github.com/wdas/reposado

It's a very cool set of Python scripts put together by Disney to allow you to set up a local update repository.

RedBaron 07-22-2011 11:12 AM

You can easily burn the file to a disk once you download it.

Go to Applications, right click "Install Lion" and select show package contents ->Contents -> SharedSupport and then COPY (NOT DRAG) InstallESD.DMG to your desktop. Then open disk utility (Application -> Utilities) and drag the InstallESD file to sidebar, once that is selected hit "burn" and insert a blank DVD.

You now have an installation disk. You can also do it to a 5GB flash drive as well. (Similar method but slightly different)

Buckterrier, I can walk you through it via PM if you want...Hell even the phone could work...You're about 45 mins away from me if worse comes to worst.

I highly recommend a clean installation if your mac is somewhat slowing down.

My impression so far of Lion is about a 9.5/10. I am starting to get used to mission control...Still not as good as Spaces, though!

jeffgrant 07-22-2011 12:12 PM

The only problem I've run into is with Parallels, where it doesn't seem to attach the virtual machine window to any of the desktops. Simple fix (right click on the dock icon, options, all desktops), but was still a bit of a hiccup.

jyl 07-23-2011 08:46 AM

Just upgraded.

MS Office no longer works - it was an old version from the PowerPC days. Irritating that I have to pay $150 for Office X. I don't use Word or Excel or Powerpoint much at home - how are Apple's Pages or Numbers as alternatives? Will they open/edit/save Office files w/ problem?

Neilk 07-23-2011 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 6153295)
Just upgraded.

MS Office no longer works - it was an old version from the PowerPC days. Irritating that I have to pay $150 for Office X. I don't use Word or Excel or Powerpoint much at home - how are Apple's Pages or Numbers as alternatives? Will they open/edit/save Office files w/ problem?

Give OpenOffice a try. It's probably not as refined as Pages or Numbers, but it's free.

techweenie 07-23-2011 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 6153295)
Just upgraded.

MS Office no longer works - it was an old version from the PowerPC days. Irritating that I have to pay $150 for Office X. I don't use Word or Excel or Powerpoint much at home - how are Apple's Pages or Numbers as alternatives? Will they open/edit/save Office files w/ problem?

I've been using Pages and Numbers interchangeably with Office 2008 and both are great apps in their own right. If you don't have to send editable files to Windoze users, you will be more than fine with the Apple apps.

Just installed Lion. Some functions appear snappier... Mail is improved. so far so good.

porsche4life 07-23-2011 09:34 AM

So worth the $29?

techweenie 07-23-2011 09:37 AM

For me, the jury is still out. Likely will have beaten on it sufficiently by Monday evening to know for sure.


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