2012 Camaro ZL1 laps the 'Ring in 7:41.27.... same as current 911 Turbo S

[kaisen]

Originally Posted by Jandrews

Can someone describe the suspension that comes on this ZL-1? That was impressive!! How about cost? I don't like the looks of it, but man, what a rocket!

JA

Chevrolet News - United States - Camaro ZL1

"Tech overview
Supporting the dynamic track and street performance of the ZL1 is the LSA 6.2L supercharged engine, which will produce an estimated 580 horsepower (430kW) and 550 lb.-ft. of torque (677 Nm), with specific features for the Camaro. Built on GM’s legendary all-aluminum, small-block V-8 architecture, the LSA features an intercooled supercharger system, premium heat-resistant aluminum-alloy cylinder heads and other details designed to ensure its exceptional performance is delivered with smoothness and refinement. Components and design elements that contribute to the LSA’s performance include:
■Balanced, lightweight reciprocating assembly
■High-strength hypereutectic pistons
■Sixth-generation Eaton supercharger with four-lobe rotors
■Piston oil squirters.

Because the Camaro ZL1 uses electric power steering, the engine does not incorporate a conventional hydraulic power steering pump on its accessory drive system. This enhances performance, because no engine power is used to turn a steering pump pulley.

Camaro ZL1 is a complete high-performance car, not just a Camaro with more power. Key technical highlights include:

Transmission – The high-performance Tremec TR-6060 six-speed manual is matched with the LSA engine. It is the “MG9” version of the transmission, with a higher torque capacity. It is used with a dual-mass flywheel and twin-disc clutch for easy operation and shift smoothness. A new, shorter-throw shifter actuates the gear changes.

Exhaust – ZL1 is equipped with a dual-mode exhaust system, which alters the sound level and character in response to engine rpm. First used on the legendary Corvette, and specifically tuned for Camaro ZL1, the dual-mode exhaust will give the car a signature sound.

Drivetrain – It is revised with a stronger driveshaft and rear axle system, featuring a larger and stronger cast iron differential housing, stronger axles and heavy-duty limited-slip differential. This patent-pending system is designed to ensure that ZL1’s tremendous power is delivered smoothly to the ground.

Suspension – The suspension features completely revised tuning and the inclusion of segment-exclusive Magnetic Ride Control. ZL1’s Magnetic Ride system will include driver selectable modes (Tour and Sport) tailored for the preferred style of driving. It uses advanced magneto-rheological science to produce shock damping with the highest level of precision, enabling body control optimized for excellent performance in everyday driving as well as track situations. This technology appears on only a small roster of some of the world’s finest performance cars. Other chassis elements are redesigned to support the car’s high-performance limits. Rear stabilizer bars have drop links repositioned outboard of the control arms. This makes the bars more effective in controlling body roll in turns, with crisp response to driver commands.

Brakes and Steering – Camaro ZL1 features an advanced track-capable braking system, developed in conjunction with experts from Brembo. The large 14.6-inch (370 mm) two-piece front rotors have six-piston calipers; the 14.4-inch (365 mm) rear rotors have four-piston calipers. ZL1 marks the entry of a new electric power steering system to Camaro. It is being developed to ensure precise control and feedback to the driver, with greater variability of effort for high-performance driving.

Wheels and Tires – New-design, 20-inch forged aluminum wheels, which are lighter than the 20-inch wheels used on the Camaro SS, are used with new Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar G:2 tires developed specifically for the ZL1."


**BTW, these GM magnetorheological shocks are exactly the same as the Ferrari 599 GTO**

[scottmandue]

I'm going to go against the grain and and say I like the new Camero.

But like motion said for that money you could get a super nice used P car (or someting like).

However it would be great fun to get a Camero and post lots of pics on this site

[AFC-911]

Performance is great, but I still like the looks of the Challenger better....I'm not going to be going to the Ring anytime soon, but I would be looking at it everyday.

Originally Posted by VINMAN

I don't get it, why do guys on here get all pissy and accusatory when an American made car performs well?

I'm ok when an American car performs well...Now, about the fat Japanese video game car...I'll never be happy about that.

[BGCarrera32]

Originally Posted by speeder

Mind-blowing performance from all of these new supercars. And that thing is definitely a supercar with those #s. I don't like the car but there is no arguing with that performance.

And it comes with OnStar, so when you ball it up those speeds you can "press the blue button".

[Sarc]

Originally Posted by speeder

Mind-blowing performance from all of these new supercars. And that thing is definitely a supercar with those #s. I don't like the car but there is no arguing with that performance.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Amazing times we're in...

[911pcars]

Impressive. Maybe we'll see a track-version of that in a race.

Sherwood

[carreraken]

I like the looks of the new camaro - albeit a little 'cartoonish'. But I can't get over the weight!! Not that I would ever own one, but it ain't so bad to look at. IMHO

[kaisen]

My favorite Camaro song..... the best starts at the two minute mark:

[kaisen]

Originally Posted by carreraken

I like the looks of the new camaro ....But I can't get over the weight!!

Weighs almost exactly the same as a Porsche Panamera Turbo

[AirKuhl]

Awesome car, I love to see an American company do something well.

But, the video also is a very clear reminder to me of why I drive an old 911 when for the same amount of money I could drive a much faster car. Watch the relative ease, quiet and comfort of that incredibly fast lap in the Camaro, then watch this slower lap in an old 911. Ok, a "well set up" old 911.

[kaisen]

Originally Posted by AirKuhl

Awesome car, I love to see an American company do something well.

But, the video also is a very clear reminder to me of why I drive an old 911 when for the same amount of money I could drive a much faster car. Watch the relative ease, quiet and comfort of that incredibly fast lap in the Camaro, then watch this slower lap in an old 911. Ok, a "well set up" old 911.

That was fun to watch. Great sounds. Looked mighty fast!

[MarkRobinson]

Camaro is still a huge, beauty-less mass-produced with cheap materials car. I'd rather see a Fiat 500 in my garage any day....or a 22 year old 951 with 1/3 the power.

I sat in my friend's new ZR1 last year: I thought the overwelming smell of cheap plastic cement would make me pass out: got out within 5 seconds. That crap's gotta be a carcinogen.

[pwd72s]

Originally Posted by VINMAN

I don't get it, why do guys on here get all pissy and accusatory when an American made car performs well?

Dare we say elitism?

[masraum]

Pretty amazing performance, I don't care who you are.

I think the new Camaros, Mustangs and Challengers are good looking cars and are pretty faithful to the original "Pony Car" concept as it fits in the automotive world today.

In my eyes, the Mustang is currently the star of the bunch with the others following in a close 2nd and 3rd.

Frankly, I prefered the looks of the previous gen mustang to this current body. I don't like the new front and rear ends as much as the previous, but the performance of the new car is impossible to argue with.

The Camaro is OK, but I don't like it as well as the mustang (previous body).

I do like the Challenger better than the Camaro.

The folks that are buying these cars and spending a bunch of $$$ on these cars want THESE CARS. They don't want a Porsche or something else. They probably grew up driving or dreaming of driving the camaros and mustangs of the 60s and early 70s. This is their chance to have what they couldn't back then. More power to 'em. THe fact that these new cars perform an order of magnitude better than the best of the originals is even better.

Let them enjoy their dream, their baby. We can enjoy our automotive mistresses.

I don't see why more "car guys" can't appreciate the mind numbing performance coming out of the big three these days.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by MarkRobinson

Camaro is still a huge, beauty-less mass-produced with cheap materials car. I'd rather see a Fiat 500 in my garage any day....or a 22 year old 951 with 1/3 the power.

I sat in my friend's new ZR1 last year: I thought the overwelming smell of cheap plastic cement would make me pass out: got out within 5 seconds. That crap's gotta be a carcinogen.

Man, I'd love a ride in a ZR1, plastic be damned. Who cares, it's a freakin' rocketship!

[pwd72s]

Originally Posted by masraum

Pretty amazing performance, I don't care who you are.

I think the new Camaros, Mustangs and Challengers are good looking cars and are pretty faithful to the original "Pony Car" concept as it fits in the automotive world today.

In my eyes, the Mustang is currently the star of the bunch with the others following in a close 2nd and 3rd.

Frankly, I prefered the looks of the previous gen mustang to this current body. I don't like the new front and rear ends as much as the previous, but the performance of the new car is impossible to argue with.

The Camaro is OK, but I don't like it as well as the mustang (previous body).

Bingo! My '09 got me to the pool hall & back yesterday just fine...think I'll call the nearby dealership this morn, see if they'd like to do a 7,500 mile service this afternoon, then I'll top her off with 92 octane premium with no alcohol gas.

[Jim Bremner]

Big red Camaro back in 1983 doing 230mph at the Silverstate Classic - YouTube

[kaisen]

Originally Posted by Jim Bremner

Big red Camaro back in 1983 doing 230mph at the Silverstate Classic - YouTube

Gottlieb's "Big Red" is still, to this day, my dream car

It was recently updated / rebuilt and featured in some magazine I subscribe to

Amazing car
bigredcamaro.com

Untitled Document

[pwd72s]

1st I've heard of "big red"...loved the video. The guy has balls to drive that fast on a public road designed for much slower speeds.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by kaisen

Gottlieb's "Big Red" is still, to this day, my dream car

It was recently updated / rebuilt and featured in some magazine I subscribe to

Amazing car
bigredcamaro.com

Untitled Document

+1 I had a Hot Rod or Car Craft or something like that talking about this thing way back in the day. Amazing car. I want to say that they had 2 tachs in the car. One for the engine and another for the driveshaft so they'd know if they were getting wheel spin.