Building a garage. What do I need?

[LakeCleElum]

Go deeper, you won't regret it. Also, lots of windows. Why do people always wanna build a detached garage with no windows? I see if all the time.

In 1994, I built a 36 x 27 myself for $7,200 (no permits)....Only paid labor was the day the concrete was poured...I had 2 roll-up doors and the third bay had large windows and a man door. Sheeted between the trusses for overhead storage...Wired for 110 and 220, no water...

[Jim Bremner]

Will you ever make a lotus 7 replica? If so you'll want 4 hardpoints on the floor that you can square up and jig a frame.

I would also want a few other hardpoints that I could bolt my roll away down to.

Will you ever need to get anything heavy into/ out of a bed of a pick up truck? A hardpoint on the ceiling would be great.

Will you have oily rags? chemicals? Gunpowder? wood dust, metal shavings? How will you contain them. What about fire?

I want a wash tub that has foot pedals like a Dr. has so that when my hands are greasy I can opperate the faucet.

I'm looking right now of building my own house and garage. I have another problem. Joanna my wife might need a wheel chair. I'm looking at needing around 44" of room from her car door to another car door or wall.

She's also in need of a low ledge lip to get into the house from the garage.

[cstreit]

Bigger. 22 feet is too narrow. You'll get two cars in next to each other but when you have one wall lined with stuff it will be tight. 24 should be the minimum with 26 being better. With 38 feet deep its just enough for cars and benches on the back wall.


I went 24 x 38,in retrospect 2 feet more in both directions would have been better.

[Mark Henry]

Originally Posted by cstreit

I went 24 x 38,in retrospect 20 feet more in both directions would have been better.

Fixed it for ya

[Racerbvd]

I went with a 30X40, only because it was as big as I could legally build on my lot, and as tall as I could get away with(16').

My concrete is over a foot in some spots (As others have pointed out this is very important.


And connect your shop to your drive..
One thing the concrete guy didn't do, that he was suppose to do (and I'm having done today) is the drainage from the connecting slab.


As for the roof, I had the trusses designed to I could use hanging shelving (kinda like a loft) to keep the floor space clear, and using 3/4 threaded rod will be adjustable height and sectional.. I can add these as needed.

Thank you for the comments! The house is in mid-state South Carolina and A/C is more critical than heat (although I do want heat). No frost line here.

I went with a full ridge vent, between that, 2 windows in the back (36X36, single hung {see if you can get double hung, I couldn't in FL. because of hurricane codes, which my shop has been built not only too code, but exceeded it} a 8'X16' roll up door (had to order it, will be in next week) and a 36X80 man door, so I have good air flow.

Now is the time to decide size so I like the idea of a little bigger versus smaller. I am a little constrained on width by setbacks. However, I can go deeper (26' or 30') on depth.

I was told 4 different distances by the city, after they signed off, after the 1st concrete was poured, (that slab was a cluster fluck on its own, and had to be completely redone) the City guy came back & said it was too close the the property line (I also had to remove a garden shed on the other side of the property, that was there when I bought the house) so, I now have an extra walk between the fence & shop(he said I didn't have to tear it out).

And having it extended today as well, so all is uniform.

The most important thing to remember, have a good supervisor..

[look 171]

Beside the length and width extension, how about height? I would like a taller garage so I can store stuff, like my Kayak, on the raters. running water and a toilet is also important. I am know nothing about heat. Around here, there is no need but a long sleeve shirt.

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by look 171

Beside the length and width extension, how about height? I would like a taller garage so I can store stuff, like my Kayak, on the raters. running water and a toilet is also important. I am know nothing about heat. Around here, there is no need but a long sleeve shirt.

I went with 12' Block walls, and like I stated, had trusses built to hold a gig load (1,000 every 6') as to toilet, plenty of trees behind the shop
Going aheaD and adding a drain inside too today..

[Mark Henry]

Originally Posted by look 171

....running water and a toilet is also important.

My buddy just had his detached garage built, adding a can (legally) would have run him another $15-20K.
He added bushes behind the garage instead.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by Racerbvd

I went with 12' Block walls, and like I stated, had trusses built to hold a gig load (1,000 every 6') as to toilet, plenty of trees behind the shop
Going aheaD and adding a drain inside too today..

12' is a nice height. I started doing cabinet work out of my parents garage during college. They had an older Spanish home with a high ceiling including the garage plus a bathroom plumbed in when the house was built. I only wish I had those two things in my own garage.

[id10t]

Network (CAT5), phone (again, more CAT5) and coax for cable tv run to the garage.... in a separate conduit from the electrical. Multiple network jacks of each type scattered around the inside.

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by look 171

12' is a nice height. I started doing cabinet work out of my parents garage during college. They had an older Spanish home with a high ceiling including the garage plus a bathroom plumbed in when the house was built. I only wish I had those two things in my own garage.

This gives you an idea how tall it actually is..

[Grady Clay]

I’ll try to contribute more with more detail because ‘garage construction’ is a current interest.

Significant is this prior image:






Some (lame?) computer program may have inspired this design.
In real life I suspect there is a flaw.


Without any other research or design engineering, I’ll ask the following design question:
Is this an improvement?




Hopefully more to come.

Best,
Grady

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by Grady Clay

I’ll try to contribute more with more detail because ‘garage construction’ is a current interest.

Significant is this prior image:






Some (lame?) computer program may have inspired this design.
In real life I suspect there is a flaw.


Without any other research or design engineering, I’ll ask the following design question:
Is this an improvement?




Hopefully more to come.

Best,
Grady

Actually an engineer/builder friend designed these in conjunction with hanging loft shelving, they were suppose to be 2X8s all the way across, then it went to computer for load testing.

[Grady Clay]

Byron,

I will yield to a PE’s design.

It doesn’t alter my question.
When it doesn’t ‘look right’, I offer a question.
I have even done this with Porsche engineers (several decades ago).
and … my PE altered his truss design when questioned.

Best,
Grady

[ted]

10 foot walls with 2x6s.
Rafters instead of trusses for lift clearance or future stairway/upper loft storage area later.
Roll up doors (auto opener on one) so you can raise a car and not hit the door.
I'd like drain/indoor wash space too.
Sky lights, several.
Rain gutters.
Coupe of doors and slider windows.
3 foot eves.
Maybe a header on one side for future side car port.
Shallow pit for sunken scissor lift.
Phone/TV/cable/internet.
220 and 110, min amp service unknown?
Outdoor air comperssor plumbed inside.
Out door motion lights.
Big flat pad in front large enuf to turn around your pick up and car trailer.
Covered side parking for trailer.
Got to have a bathroom!

[s_morrison57]

you didn't mention if you had a lane, I did and built my 26 x 30', planning to widen to 26' x 47' and that will be nice but if you can afford it, like the other guys have said go bigger you won't regret it. A bath room with shower is something that I missed but will include. Cable and phone are cool too. Build it tall 12' look big 10 if the permits will allow. Lots of steel and mesh in the floor and go thick.
I did a drive through build from the lane to the backyard, 1 - 18' door and 1 - 9', takes up alot of counter space but it works good for me. Plan lots so you get what you want. I did my 4' lights on 4 switches so I can have it a bit dimmer when I'm watching the tv and hangin out. Plan for a beer fridge and then fill it with cars. Whatcha got?
Finn