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IE; What happens off the field shouldn't matter. Just don't get caught. This attitude will come back to haunt all coaches. Especially ones who won't investigate one of their own caught up in a pedo accusation. |
I'm sitting here watching HLN with my wife while their disecting the Bob Costas interview last Night on Brian Williams Rock Center. This is what just hit me/us...
Mike McQuery as it turns out is a hometown kid. Grew up not far from Penn State, Sandusky has known him since he was a kid, Sandusky knows the family and has been friends with his dad for years. McQuery worked his way up through the system of the Penn State football program. Quaterback, manager, assistant coach. A McQuery's email that has been discovered includes a fairly cryptic message..."the whole truth hasn't come out yet" Is it possible however horrible this has been...McQuery walked in on Sandusky in the shower and flashed backed to an incident between HIM and Sandusky! Isn't also possible that the reason that he is being "protected/spared" by the DA's office and Penn State is because he has ALREADY come forward as a victim. Something to think about.... ND |
I would say that is very possible...
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Now McQueary is saying he did stop it, from the article:
McQueary’s actions also have been scrutinized, with some suggesting he didn’t do enough after witnessing child sex-abuse. McQueary told a friend from Penn State that he stopped the alleged assault and went to the police about it. The friend made an email from McQueary available to The Associated Press on Tuesday on the condition of anonymity. Joe Paterno coached at Penn State for 64 seasons. (US Presswire) In the email dated Nov. 8 from McQueary’s Penn State account, the former Nittany Lions quarterback wrote: “I did stop it, not physically … but made sure it was stopped when I left that locker room… I did have discussions with police and with the official at the university in charge of police….no one can imagine my thoughts or wants to be in my shoes for those 30-45 seconds…trust me.” Added McQueary: “Do with this what you want…but I am getting hammered for handling this the right way…or what I thought at the time was right…I had to make tough impacting quick decisions.” Emails to McQueary from AP were not immediately answered. Sandusky TV interview could haunt him at trial - College Football - Rivals.com |
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"District Judge Leslie Dutchcot released Sandusky on $100,000 bail this morning, a price that surprised prosecutors. The bail conditions required Sandusky to merely sign a paper and walk out, stating if he fails to show up in the future, he would have to pay $100,000." |
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Don't know why they call it bail, sounds like ROR to me, unless ROR is considered bail?
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Sad, disgusted, angry. It's been said and I agree.
Director, Barry Levinson made this film, "Sleepers" (1996), a story about 4 friends who were sexually abused as kids. Basically a revenge movie, but the script provides plenty of material to feel the full impact of their situation at the hands of sexual predators. 'Sleepers' Debate Renewed: How True Is a 'True Story'? - New York Times <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/GhpksOKZqws" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> BTW, it's a good film. Sherwood |
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Don't know why - but that makes me feel a little better - just life I guess - after all. Thanks Luke |
Yep, just life. Guess we need the bad stuff to make us appreciate the good stuff? Alas, the mainstream press seldom mentions the good stuff.
Last night's local TV said Paterno has a $500,000 per year pension with full medical bennies. Oh well, at his age he shouldn't be collecting it long. |
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Matt Millen breaks down and cries...... Penn State Scandal: Matt Millen Cries Discussing Joe Paterno, Jerry Sandusky Investigation (VIDEO) |
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Is it possible that this is much larger than figuered? A sex ring that even Joe Pa is part of? This is bigger than just Football.
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They rented the camp ground for 4 weeks per summer for a couple of years. Owner of the campground claims SM requested the curtains be removed from the shower stalls and there were several "activities" that involved cross dressing. |
I'm wondering if McQueary and Sandusky don't have a few things in common other than football...............
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I bet when you turn up the lights on this thing you are gonna see some stuff the public won't be able to stomach. This is gonna get pretty darn creepy IMO...
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There sure seems like a lot of prejudgement here of many folks, some of which must yet be seen to be true or not. The latest McQuery claim of stopping the act and informing the police (if true - although now the police departments suggest it is not) is but one of the examples of a leap to judgement of inadequate response by posters here. For now, this: "No one knows what the mindset was at Penn State that allowed Jerry Sandusky to exist all these years, but protecting the pristine brand of Joe “Difference Maker” Paterno is certainly a possibility." from It’s time to stop deifying college coaches - College Football - Rivals.com is the most accurate assessment of the known facts. |
I get the whole due process and fair trial and what not. Ya ya ya ...
The whole 'mind-set' argument is just good fodder for the defense. Frankly I think it is bullshyt. Of course we all know what we would do in a situation that required action. The fact that someone doesn't do what we all know to be the right thing suggests that they are hiding something or have a vested interest in the outcome. That technique is used to provide a sliver of doubt so that you can get an acquittal. Its not pre-judgment it is judgment. Check your gut on this. The chances of this guy being clean and that Sandusky is innocent don't feel right for a reason. The gut is right more than it is wrong. |
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Somebody, maybe many somebodies are to blame. We just don't know who did what. And frankly it seems to me, it is just as likely that JoePa handed this off because he didn't know what to do with accusing his neighbor and longtime assistant, as it is that he was trying to protect himself/legacy. Let's face it, the guy is old and may not have much more together than a game plan with the same 20 plays from 20yrs ago.... |
Was discussing this at work.....what brought this case out of the dead all of the sudden? I heard it was a post on a forum like this....anyone know?
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This type of thing was bound to happen.
Bernie Fine Scandal: Syracuse Coach Placed on Leave Amid Child Molestation Accusations - ABC News |
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As many have said, this will get much worse as the story unfolds. Sandusky could be in the same conversation as Dahmer and Gacey. But the thing is, those 2 whackos essentially worked alone. Sandusky had his own "support team" from Paterno on down. I'm not saying they knew the depth of his psychosis. but they certainly ( unknowingly and unwillingly ) facilitated his actions for decades. He pulled the wool over their eyes and pulled it well. However, investigators and PSU staff knew enough to intervene many years ago. They didn't. Knee jerk presumptions are rampant. ( yes, I know the definition of irony )
Sandusky admitted to Costas on national tv, lawyer in attendance, that he showered with young boys. Also that his genitals touched them. Not a presumption there, just repeating what he said. If that makes me an asshat, so be it. |
You're not an asshat, Don. You're just prioritizing silly things like ethics, morality, and upstanding behavior ahead of rooting for a particular football team. Clearly something is wrong with you.
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There not even that great a team/prgram or school! I mean if it was Notre Dame or A&M then that would be a different story...
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Sandusky finally re-arrested and in jail with a 250k bail.
He's inmate 11-1709 and was wearing a Penn State jacket as he was taken in. More than 50 charges including six 1st degree felonies. |
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