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Location: Monmouth county, NJ USA
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F#€! ethanol !!
I'm sick of this crap. Every single gas operated vehicle,watercraft,piece of lawn and garden equipment that I own has been effed-up, because of it.
Sorry, end of rant.....
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11-20-2011, 02:44 PM
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Location: Dana Point, Ca
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I just talked to a friend with a very powerful turbo Porsche he is rebuilding, he said he was at a point where he was probably going to set it up to run ethanol in it, he said it uses more but is cheaper, the 116 stuff he was using is too expensive. Even at that he said he would have to go to San Diego to get the stuff.
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11-20-2011, 03:15 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: NJ
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Ducati has a class action lawsuit against it due to plastic gas tanks warping and seals failing because of the ethanol.
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11-20-2011, 03:22 PM
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When I put non ethanol fuel in my truck I get a bit over 300 miles to a tank. 10% ethanol I get 200. That's messed up!
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11-20-2011, 03:50 PM
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Location: Monmouth county, NJ USA
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Ive had to rebuild/replace, every carb/fuel system component, on everything I own this year.
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11-20-2011, 04:08 PM
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Location: Waterlogged
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And you get to pay more for food as a result. All to apease the Agriculture lobby in Washington. They have bigger lawyers than we do!
But never fear...if we have bad weather and the corn crop is off a bit, we'll write some tax-payer funded subsidy checks that would curl your hair. Ok, I'll shut up now before this gets banished to PARF. Pisses me off nonetheless.
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11-20-2011, 04:17 PM
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Just today I was working the leaf blower clearing the gutters before winter sets in. Ran some left over VP U4 It smelled so very good! Purged it with some sunoco purple when I was done.
(The rocket fuels don't store well.)
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11-20-2011, 04:27 PM
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I've gotten to the point that I've put shut-off valves on everything but the cars. After I use them, shut the fuel off, and let them run until they die. I haven't had to rebuild a carb in a while now. I had to tear apart the carb on the push mower four times last year because of 10% ethanol..
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11-20-2011, 04:47 PM
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Location: Linn County, Oregon
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I'm glad there was an exemption made to the gasahol law here. I recently found a source for NO ALCOHOL unleaded 92 octane premium. It's 13.1 miles from my garage. Worth the trip to me!
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"Now, to put a water-cooled engine in the rear and to have a radiator in the front, that's not very intelligent." -Ferry Porsche (PANO, Oct. '73) (I, Paul D. have loved this quote since 1973. It will remain as long as I post here.) |
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11-20-2011, 04:48 PM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Off the grid- Almost
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My yard equipment & generator all get 100LL Avgas.
No alcohol, stays stable for a very long time. |
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11-20-2011, 04:49 PM
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11-20-2011, 04:58 PM
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My cafe racer has sat for a month or two..... One carb is now effed up. My little ATC ice racer won't run and my riding mower needs the carb tore down before I store it for the winter. Next weekend I am making a fuel run to the airport and will waste the weekend fixing carbs, draining fuel and starting all my summer stuff on a bit of AVgas. Yeah I am sick of this ridiculous govt mandated ethanol BS.
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11-20-2011, 05:08 PM
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"Now, to put a water-cooled engine in the rear and to have a radiator in the front, that's not very intelligent." -Ferry Porsche (PANO, Oct. '73) (I, Paul D. have loved this quote since 1973. It will remain as long as I post here.) |
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11-20-2011, 05:37 PM
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11-20-2011, 05:41 PM
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11-20-2011, 05:49 PM
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Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada
"We currently have 4481 stations entered for the following states and provinces" (that sell real gas) I guess I'm spoiled, there's one less than a mile from me, and at least two others in my town. Sorry, I don't see any listed in NJ. Jim
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down to jap bikes that run and a dead Norton Last edited by on2wheels52; 11-20-2011 at 06:05 PM.. |
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11-20-2011, 06:00 PM
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It doesn't appear to have as much effect on EFI systems?
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Si non potes inimicum tuum vincere, habeas eum amicum and ride a big blue trike. "'Bipartisan' usually means that a larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." |
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11-20-2011, 06:16 PM
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 Edit: didn't I just read a post from you about your VW and fuel systems that degrade with EtOH? Not that I care to bother to look it up. Edit Again: here it is. Rubber Fuel Hose
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11-20-2011, 06:41 PM
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No - not sure why, but the EFI on the later cars has fewer problems than CIS systems.
My carbs run fine on it (so far). BTW - you can buy race gas here w/o Et-OH in it -- I occasionally buy it (unleaded) - but costs $10/gal. |
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11-20-2011, 06:42 PM
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it's a joke Hughbert - Geez
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11-20-2011, 06:43 PM
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the stable a few years ago
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