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Help my truck died this morning
2001 GMC 3500 diesel with 132,000 miles she's been running great with zero issues. This morning it's about 33 degrees out and I go out to start her and she fires right up. I let it warm up for a minute or so and turn on the lights to pull out of the driveway no problems. I put it in gear ( auto ) and pull forward about 10 feet and she dies. I lost all electrical power. No lights, radio nothing it's pitch black. It has dual batteries and there has been no indication of pending electrical doom. The amp gauge has been pretty steady while driving at 14+. There was no electrical smell nothing unusual at all just bam . I was able to put it in neutral and coast it backwards so I could take the Porsche to work. So does this sound like an ignition switch problem or a fusible link or ???? I'm at work now and won't be able to take a look at the truck until tomorrow or Saturday. Advice is greatly appreciated.
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12-08-2011, 01:41 AM
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Sudden death.......
Sounds like a main fuse blew. Do the easy/cheap thing first and check all the fuses. If they are all good, check out the relays. You might find that there is a fuseable link somewhere in the system which would be another possibility. Check the batteries with a volt/ohm meter to make certain they are both good. With 133k on the clock, you might also have a bad alternator. At 130k on my Porsche I found that the stator was almost worn thru. Good luck!
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12-08-2011, 04:16 AM
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Does the horn, brake lights or hazard flashers still work?
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12-08-2011, 06:47 AM
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Don't have a diesel, but I had a fuse to the injection go out once and it never happened again. So no problems, it just failed. Good luck with yours, I hope it's that simple.
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12-08-2011, 06:52 AM
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I hope its a duramax and not a 6.5 diesel. If a 6.5 the fuel injection controller sits on top of the fuel injection pump and heat kills them.
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12-08-2011, 07:04 AM
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But that wont kill power. Check the battery connections and fuses first.
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12-08-2011, 07:17 AM
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Yes it is a duramax. Does anyone know if with a 2 battery system if one were to go bad would it exhibit this condition ? I doubt it but thought I would ask.
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12-08-2011, 07:34 AM
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Disconnect one neg(-) battery post, and check voltage of both with DVOM(digital volt ohm meter).
Check for clean connections at all battery, starter, alternator, grounds. Check all fuseboxes and fuseable links. Start from there.
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12-08-2011, 07:42 AM
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This is a total power disconnect somewhere in the charging system. It will wind up being something simple but hard to diagnose from here. One battery "going bad" would not cause this but a bad ground or connection somewhere would. If you don't want to get it towed in somewhere, get on a Duramax board and ask the same question/tell the story. Good luck.
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12-08-2011, 07:50 AM
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It's probably a fusible link in the charging circuit. I've seen it before with GM's.
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12-08-2011, 07:53 AM
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The same thing happened to me this summer with my 06 Tahoe. I went to start it after grocery shopping. Turned the key. Cranked for a split second then nothing. No lights remote not working nothing. I started with the ground cable on the battery. Magically it started. It's been fine since. I did take both battery terminals off the battery cleaned and re-installed when I got home.
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12-08-2011, 01:48 PM
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UPDATE; Problem found
Today I got off work early so came home and started looking over the truck. I put the key in the ignition then popped the hood. I went to the drivers side battery first ( two in a diesel ) and wiggled the positive battery cable. BINGO ! I heard the ignition bell going off. Looked in the truck and the dome light was on. I turned the key and the glow plug light came on. When it went off I turned the key and vrooom she fired right up
. Turns out the positive battery cable clamp has some corrosion where the bar holds the exposed cable wires into the clamp and it's loose. So I'm going to buy a new end and replace. I'll go ahead and dip the exposed wire in baking soda solution to get it clean and will coat with battery corrosion gel before installing the new clamp. The passenger side looks good but it uses the smaller cable ends with the bolt through the center. Man I'm glad I lucked out. Thanks to all that chimed in with suggestions.
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12-09-2011, 12:17 PM
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Problem found...........
You just used up all of your luck for the rest of the year! Congratualtions on having an easy fix!!
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12-09-2011, 12:48 PM
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Wow this exact thing happened on my dodge diesel! The battery cable was loose so it corroded a little. One day it wouldn't start. I wiggled the battery cable and saw the PO left it loose. Phew that was an easy fix!
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12-09-2011, 01:13 PM
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Well, at least we were right about it being something simple like a fuse. Cool that you got at it before it cost you a bunch of money.
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12-09-2011, 04:18 PM
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12-09-2011, 05:18 PM
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I should have said battery cable. I've had the exact same thing happen before but the part that threw me off was that it stopped while running.
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Interesting that the two batteries are not redundant. How are they hooked up?
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