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red-beard 12-22-2011 11:48 AM

Engine Start/Stop Button
 
Like or Dislike?

stomachmonkey 12-22-2011 11:50 AM

Hate

scottbombedout 12-22-2011 11:53 AM

Love them. Had one on a Renault I had, would love it on my IB.

Racerbvd 12-22-2011 12:08 PM

Had one on my 50 Chevy 3100, OK on that, but now just one more thing that can fail..

Jrboulder 12-22-2011 12:11 PM

Hate

Paul K 12-22-2011 12:32 PM

Engine start buttons are quite silly.

azasadny 12-22-2011 12:34 PM

Have had one on my daily driver since 2/2007 (MazdaSpeed3) and I like it, although the "smart" keyfob is too large...

tharbert 12-22-2011 12:34 PM

Right up there with push button transmissions... HaTe!

azasadny 12-22-2011 12:42 PM

Why is turning a key acceptable but not pushing a button? Just asking? On what other machinery do we turn a key to start it? I push a button to start my lawnmower, weedwacker, snowblower, etc... and never thought it was "silly". Just takes getting used to....

t951 12-22-2011 12:46 PM

Keys are a vestige of the past. I had an 07 Vette. When I would travel I would keep the fob in my bag. When I get back from my trip it was awesome to just walk up to the car...no need to unlock, no need to look for the ignition. Just walk up, open up and drive off....

Keys are awful.

We actually changed our house locks to keyless....

Joeaksa 12-22-2011 12:53 PM

Years ago several Jaguars that I had used a "starter button" and loved them.

The current crop of so called copy cats for me are terrible. Would never own a car that had one.

Zeke 12-22-2011 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul K (Post 6448997)
Engine start buttons are quite silly.

They are for race cars where you need to hit the starter now. I'm happy with a key. Touch the key to the lock on the Jag and the seats, mirrors, etc all adjust to the driver. How does a car with a button know who's getting in if it was unocked?

Gogar 12-22-2011 01:13 PM

Engine start buttons on new cars are totally great, as long as you know how to shut the car off in an emergency.

My mom got a new Cadillac and it's the first thing I showed her.

Les Paul 12-22-2011 01:16 PM

Don't have to fumble for keys. How is that not good?

rrental 12-22-2011 01:27 PM

Love it if combined with keyless entry.

kaisen 12-22-2011 01:31 PM

Nissan/Infiniti's system is just about flawless. Just keep a very small fob in your pocket/purse Approach the car, car sees fob, push a teeny button as you pull your handle and you are in the driver's door -- the rest of the doors remain locked unless you push the teeny button again. Get in, car moves the seat and settings to your preferences. Push the start button and you're off.

How could you NOT like the convenience? Are you guys all crotchety old timers?

oldE 12-22-2011 01:33 PM

As long as it is tied in to a system in which a key does NOT have to be placed in a slot. If you have to do that, scrap the button, it's an affectation.
But if you have a case as stated above, you leave the card/fob/"key" in your pocket, get in, push the button and go.
It kind of takes me back to the days when we left the key in the ignition in the driveway. You were never looking for the key or trying to fit it into the ignition slot in the dash, just get in, turn the key and go.
Funny how some things just come 'round again, isn't it?

Best
Les

azasadny 12-22-2011 01:35 PM

My button start car must have the key in the immediate vicinity (driver's pocket, for instance). If the key isn't present, the car won't start and a buzzer rings to let you know you forgot the key...

doug_porsche 12-22-2011 01:36 PM

I have one in the Lotus. They are fun, they are cute.....

For about the first week.

Moses 12-22-2011 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldE (Post 6449140)
As long as it is tied in to a system in which a key does NOT have to be placed in a slot. If you have to do that, scrap the button, it's an affectation.
But if you have a case as stated above, you leave the card/fob/"key" in your pocket, get in, push the button and go.
It kind of takes me back to the days when we left the key in the ignition in the driveway. You were never looking for the key or trying to fit it into the ignition slot in the dash, just get in, turn the key and go.
Funny how some things just come 'round again, isn't it?

Best
Les

Exactly!

Keyless with a push button start is really, really nice.

stomachmonkey 12-22-2011 01:51 PM

Tactile.

My 55' 190SL has a mechanical push button for the starter. There is satisfaction in using it and it's not used to turn the vehicle off.

The current crop of push button on/off buttons really provide no "feedback".

teenerted1 12-22-2011 02:01 PM

like start button....stop button not so much

Racerbvd 12-22-2011 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doug_porsche (Post 6449145)
I have one in the Lotus. They are fun, they are cute.....

For about the first week.

yea, my B&B partner has an Elise, I noticed that too..
I truck old mechanical over electrical and with 2012 approaching, I wish I still had my old chevy PU..

Moses 12-22-2011 02:03 PM

My E55 senses the fob in my pocket and the door unlocks when I grab the handle. It adjusts the seat, wheel and mirror positions to my fob. Remembers different settings for my wife's fob.

The car won't let me lock the keys in the car. If I put the keys on the roof of the car it won't let me start it. Smart car.

Moses 12-22-2011 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 6448949)
just one more thing that can fail..

My dad said that about power windows. Pretty sure his dad said the same thing about electric starters.

Zeke 12-22-2011 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaisen (Post 6449135)

How could you NOT like the convenience? Are you guys all crotchety old timers?

No, just not with the times. My wife could use one of those fobs. Then she would just have to figure out what purse.

Oh hell, take them all out with you.

Pretty soon car thieves will say, "Crap, we can't boost that, it uses a KEY!"

pwd72s 12-22-2011 03:33 PM

Haven't had one since my '50 Ford...to me, start buttons seem like a step backwards.

gprsh924 12-22-2011 03:38 PM

I would love to have keyless start on my car at the moment. I'm in sales and get in/out of my car about 50 times a day. Being able to leave the key in my pocket the entire time would be awesome.

VINMAN 12-22-2011 03:41 PM

I'll take a simple key, thank you. I hate these new ones with all the bs on it. The key for my daughter's Avenger is the size of a tennis racquet.

Racerbvd 12-22-2011 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 6449358)
No, just not with the times. My wife could use one of those fobs. Then she would just have to figure out what purse.

Oh hell, take them all out with you.

Pretty soon car thieves will say, "Crap, we can't boost that, it uses a KEY!"

LOL, I got it from my Father, and yes, they have FAILED on me in the past..
Now, GET OF MY LAWN!!http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1324598434.jpg

GH85Carrera 12-22-2011 04:17 PM

My wife's car has it. I see the cool factor when I drive it. My "key" stays in my brief case. I hate that feature when I need something from her car when it is in the garage. I have to go get her purse and carry it to the garage to get in the back seat or move the car.

That one fob is way bigger than all of my keys on the key fob for my house, office and both cars combined. And my keys never ever need batteries. Now get off my lawn!

Laneco 12-22-2011 09:14 PM

We have on one the spyder. It's pretty cool on that car. There's a whole button/switch start procedure on that car. Key on, pull the fuel pump switch out, throw one ignition switch over, then the other (2 sets of 3 coil packs), listen for pressure, then hit the start button and let the FUN BEGIN!

So, yes, I like it on that car. But I think on a rather standard driver it would be a bit silly.

angela

RWebb 12-22-2011 09:55 PM

Other

Evans, Marv 12-22-2011 10:10 PM

I'm with Angela on the start up proceedure. I used to enjoy turning the key, waiting for the fuel pump to pressure up and pushing the button on my '56 Austin Healy 100-4. I think my TR3 had a pull knob on it. For some reason I just liked it. My wife has the push button start on her '12 Nissan. It's cool but has a high tech feel to it that's different from my old cars - not the same thing at all.

mossguy 12-22-2011 10:14 PM

My '54 MG-TF had a pull starter and key. My '66 Jaguar had a key and push button. They both had a great feel to them, and were shut down with the turn of the key.

Jim Bremner 12-22-2011 10:30 PM

'06 Chevette, place fob in pocket, walk up to car hit the open membrane behind the handle, decend to the seat, clutch pedal to the floor, hit START, drive off!

I reaal like it. every time that I get in my pick up I miss the che'vette.

porsche4life 12-22-2011 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laneco (Post 6449920)
We have on one the spyder. It's pretty cool on that car. There's a whole button/switch start procedure on that car. Key on, pull the fuel pump switch out, throw one ignition switch over, then the other (2 sets of 3 coil packs), listen for pressure, then hit the start button and let the FUN BEGIN!

So, yes, I like it on that car. But I think on a rather standard driver it would be a bit silly.

angela

As usual, Angela hit the nail on the head. Not sure I would like it on a DD, but on my racecar it will be a several switch procedure to start....

Adds to the experience... :D

jmaxwell 12-23-2011 05:56 AM

Marv, you're right about the TR3. If you forgot the key, you could also hold a quarter to the back of the key switch to hotwire it.

asphaltgambler 12-23-2011 06:01 AM

A novelty for me, but I do like them because it does remind me of the old race-car stuff

not sharp 12-23-2011 09:03 AM

Well, just lost my key to the 4runner.

$325.00 key
$100.00 locksmith & reprogram
$425.00


Don't like them as much as I had!!!!!!!!!


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