All they need to do is pick up our radio/TV transmissions and they'll know that Earth contains no intelligent life.

If they ever find the PARF they'll blow us out of the sky as a communiy service.

i think its funny that there are people who have "faith" that there is an invisible man in the sky they call God but any belief that there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe is "crazy"

totally illogical

our own existence proves that intelligent life can exist. to insist we are the only ones is pretty silly

Really?
Perhaps you would be so kind as to state the *exact* circumstances that creates life. There would a Nobel prize in it for you.:D

Read the post above yours. No need to PARF this up.

I made no reference to any supreme being involved. I'm talking physics, chemistry, statistics, and whatever else it takes. If the question is too hard, say so don't lay any "anti God" BS on me.

This was a fun thread

In Carl Sagan's novel, CONTACT, an extraterrestrial civilization does this very thing. In order to get our attention, they beam back one of our very first TV broadcasts, which is then picked up by SETI radio telescopes. That broadcast? It's Adolf Hitler addressing the German people in Berlin prior to the 1936 Summer Olympics.

Sagan's book is interesting in that it outlines a plausible scenario for an extraterrestrial contact from a scientific point of view.

Probably something out there - as there is no real evidence and given distance methinks they ain't been here.

If they are instellar capable we are most likely like microbes to them -they just pass us by. We do tend to over estimate our importance.

What if technology is an evolutionary dead end?
If there are any of them - Sagan was one of em

Nice thread cause nobody knows

Mflo

It's fun to think aliens are watching I love Lucy I don't know why the inverse square law does not apply to the SETI folk though.

JP makes a valid post.

Everyone else is standing pat on guesses...

( sorry if this post wasn't fun enough ) :rolleyes:


KT

Best. Rebuttle. Ever.

Come on, Trek, I would like to keep the God Squad out of this.

The formation of life is a tough hurdle to get over....statistically, then couple that with taking a single cell life form and mutating that into a sentient being is another huge step....all the right moves and asteroids raining down on these critters heads not to mention novas taking place in the neighborhood......the odds start climbing mighty quick. What is needed of the "final" form is a big brain and the manual dexterity to use it to build stuff.....then they gotta get over killing each other off.

Then there is time. It's a pretty safe bet that no life existed for a couple years after the Big Bang......say 4-5 billion years to cool down enough. The earth is what, 5-6 billion years old & we can see 13-14 billion years back. That would leave a 4-6 billion year window to allow all these right moves to take place and progress to where we are now. Sure, it could happen, but certainty....no.

There could be civilizations a couple billion years ahead of us and a few thousand years behind...... and it's also possible that technology is a dead end and other civilization's existence is moot.

It does; however, your comment doesn't really make sense. If a signal carrying the I Love Lucy show is transmitted from Earth at some power level, and propagates through space and is received at an alien planet at some reduced power level (inverse sq law), then is retransmitted back to Earth at some power level not necessarily at the power level it was received at (you've heard of amplifiers), and received by an Earth station at some reduced power level (once again, inverse sq law), then the SETI folks some time in the future might be able to watch I Love Lucy.

Trek, you are hilarious with the "guesses" comment, as your whole belief system is based on just that. :p

Monoflo, your comment "What if technology is an evolutionary dead end?" doesn't make sense to me. Technology is what man creates. It in itself, does not "evolve," at least not in some biological sense. If you're saying that we hit a wall on what we can do to overcome the vast distances/speed of light issues that impeded interstellar travel, well then I can see your point. Is that what you meant?

Wonder how organic material is created? In a Star? Hmmm

Stars spew out organic matter into space – life may have its origin in star dust | ZME Science

My thoughts would be..
1. If another life-form came this far, why would it not make contact? If its a research project, then they would NOT have to enter the atmosphere to observe us(hell, even humans have that tech). I'm pretty sure they could think up a high powered version of "google streetview". If they\it doesn't enter the atmosphere then they remain unseen by those who claim to have seen something.

2. I think that the people that think they saw something, probably did see something. All that means is at this TIME it cant be explained. That doent mean it was extraterrestrial. Thats the same kind of logic that produces "hey I heard an unfamiliar noise in another room in my house, therefore I must have ghost"

There are lots of UFOs. None of them are aliens from other planets. Most UFOs are ordinary human built aircraft or flat out hoaxes.

Assuming some aliens manage to travel to earth why in the world are they doing anal probes on Buba and Cletus from the swamps? They can travel across interstellar space and can't come up with something like Dr. McCoy had on Star Trek? Nope they have to do a colonoscopy on Buba. Yea right.

Don't forget Cartman with the mother of all anal probes...

http://www.southparkstuff.com/images...i101/10118.jpg

My take on his statement is that man no longer has to evolve because we have technology that does it for us. If the earth grows cold again, will we start growing a thicker coat to stay warm? Not when we have furnaces in our homes and offices, and heaters in our transportation devices. As man-made technology continues to find new ways to make our lives easier and shield us from the world around us, the need for man to evolve to meet future changes in our environment disappears.

Explains why drivers are getting worse and worse as car-makers ladle more safety and convenience times into our cars. We de-evolve as technology increasingly coddles to our every need.

http://brendangibbs.files.wordpress....fat-people.jpg

Sad.

the best saucer story I have heard first hand

my chemistry sub in high school was a pilot in the air force reserve
and was killing time waiting to go to viet-nam so sub teaching my class

he claim to be vectored to inspect a UFO report while flying a jet fighter near DC
he said he got a radar lock and flew until he got a visual
and at that point the UFO went strait up at a very high speed
he claimed it was a classic silver disk

at least no rednecks or trailer parks in that tale