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Mortgage Sold 1 Month after Getting It?
OK, I did a re-fi with Citibank which was approved in April. I got a letter yesterday telling me it was sold to Freddie Mac.
I know mortgages are sold back and forth but in a month's time? What gives?
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Citibank intended to resell it when the wrote it
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When I used to work in a mortgage company-we would have the buying investors(banks) calling us to inquire about the loan BEFORE it had even closed!! We usually told them to go to hell, of course, for that reason.
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Explain to me how they make money.
I feel dirty and used. Wait, I always feel that way.
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Happened to me one refinance ago... Within about 45 days, we received a new booklet of payment stubs from a second mortgage company.
We just refinanced in the fall with Old National, $200 closing costs and dropped out APR to 3.9. I asked them if they were going to sell it "like last time" and they said they wouldn't. The margin of profit is almost nonexistent at that APR.
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They're not making anything on the sale of one loan. It's packaged and then sold on the secondary market. Totally normal and you signed a disclosure at closing acknowledging this could happen. They usually tell you the percentage of likelihood that it will be sold.
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I don't really care that it was sold. I'm trying to figure out how they make money.
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They make a small percentage right away, and have their money back to re-invest. In some cases, they also make money in initial closing costs.
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Sounds to me like this sort of thing could bring down an entire banking system/economy that would then require a gov't bail out using money the gov't did not have and needed to print
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Because they're selling financial instruments? You understand that it happens ALL the time, in every possible way? And it happened for decades before the collapse
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I had one loan sold 3 times. A lot of the time a bank will sell the loan but continue to service it. That's one way to make good money with nothing invested. You don't even know who has the pink slip.
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That's why (almost) all mortgages use the same 35 page note. They can be bought and sold with the same terms. Has little to no effect on the mortgagee.
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Making money by pushing risk around. What a great basis for our new economy.
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Our mortgage was sold several times in less than a year...
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I thought it was funny that Bank of America sold mine to Banc of America.
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Spelling change or real sale?
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those agrarian and manufacturing economies that built our country were just passing fads, I have to agree.
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