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targa911S 02-01-2012 09:21 AM

Mary Fords axe? WOW!
 
I saw this on pawn stars but now it's on Ebay....

Mary Fords Personal Gibson Les Paul Electric Guitar History Channels Pawn Stars | eBay

widebody911 02-01-2012 09:25 AM

Who?

targa911S 02-01-2012 09:29 AM

yer kidding...right? Les Paul & Mary Ford? Les Pauls wife? Famous guitarists? Come on man.

pwd72s 02-01-2012 09:31 AM

Hell, even I, who can't carry a beat in a bucket, know Les Paul & Mary Ford...

MRM 02-01-2012 09:32 AM

Les Paul and Mary Ford. They were the rock star couple before there was rock and roll. Before Les Paul invented it.

stomachmonkey 02-01-2012 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 6530556)
Who?

Really?

$250,000 buy it now, would have thought more but maybe that's about right.

I wonder when the pick up mod was done and by who?

craigster59 02-01-2012 09:42 AM

Seems like it could be a good investment for someone. I've seen new guitars signed by U2 selling for 120k

Drdogface 02-01-2012 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by targa911S (Post 6530565)
yer kidding...right? Les Paul & Mary Ford? Les Pauls wife? Famous guitarists? Come on man.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Les Paul basically invent the electric guitar ?

Dueller 02-01-2012 09:46 AM

Pawn Stars paid $90K for it. Gonna make a sweet little profit if it sells for BIN

wdfifteen 02-01-2012 09:47 AM

I saw that show. The owner wanted $250,000 and the pawn shop guy bought it from him for $90,000. The eBay seller has a $250,000 "buy it now price."

Dueller 02-01-2012 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 6530609)
I saw that show. The owner wanted $250,000 and the pawn shop guy bought it from him for $90,000. The eBay seller has a $250,000 "buy it now price."

Its their website (Pawn Stars)...here's a jacket they paid $400 for I think...

Rare Vintage World War II 2 Cargo Pilot's Jacket ASO History Channels Pawn Stars | eBay

stomachmonkey 02-01-2012 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Drdogface (Post 6530605)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Les Paul basically invent the electric guitar ?

Kind of sort of but not really. Rickenbacher is generally credited with the electric guitar but it was a hollow body.

Les Paul perfected the solid body electric guitar.

His patents on recording technology are not as well known but are just as if not a more important contribution.

Drdogface 02-01-2012 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 6530624)
Kind of sort of but not really. Rickenbacher is generally credited with the electric guitar but it was a hollow body.

Les Paul perfected the solid body electric guitar.

His patents on recording technology are not as well known but are just as if not a more important contribution.

Thanks for that history lesson SmileWavy

It would be cool to visit their shop in Vegas..

Scooter 02-01-2012 10:01 AM

I am not a guitar guy, but I saw that Pawn Stars episode. I think this guitar will be a really cool purchase for someone. I also think the documentation is equally important.

targa911S 02-01-2012 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Drdogface (Post 6530605)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Les Paul basically invent the electric guitar ?

Actually Rickenbacker did. http://invention.smithsonian.org/centerpieces/electricguitar/pop-ups/02-02.htm well really it was slingerland,http://invention.smithsonian.org/centerpieces/electricguitar/pop-ups/03-12.htm but Les made it what it is today.

nostatic 02-01-2012 10:05 AM

*cough* Leo Fender *cough*

targa911S 02-01-2012 10:15 AM

Leo was late to that party. Leo was more the "Henry Ford" of guitar makers, with standardized parts and production line assembly.
He DID invent that instrument close to our hearts though. The electric bass guitar! Fender Precision Bass guitar :: Invention of the Electric Guitar :: Smithsonian Lemelson Center

targa911S 02-01-2012 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Scooter (Post 6530637)
I am not a guitar guy, but I saw that Pawn Stars episode. I think this guitar will be a really cool purchase for someone. I also think the documentation is equally important.

i agree.

scottmandue 02-01-2012 10:17 AM

I can see it is labled "Les Paul".

But it looks like a SG body?

targa911S 02-01-2012 10:17 AM

Yep SG stands for "solid guitar." Les was NOT a big fan of the style. Almost severed ties with Gibson over it.

nostatic 02-01-2012 10:18 AM

True, but if you say "made it what it is today", I think Fender has a much bigger shadow in the industry than Les Paul. That isn't to diminish what LP did at all.

targa911S 02-01-2012 10:32 AM

agreed. I feel as you that nobody really contributed more to the progress of the electric guitar than Leo. Yes he made it what it is today.

JMPRO 02-01-2012 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by targa911S (Post 6530672)
Yep SG stands for "solid guitar." Les was NOT a big fan of the style. Almost severed ties with Gibson over it.

SG does not stand for "Solid guitar". It stands for "Spanish guitar" A name that was used years ago to distinguish between a lap style guitar and and the upright guitar with fretts.

Jerry

WolfeMacleod 02-01-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JMPRO (Post 6530730)
SG does not stand for "Solid guitar". It stands for "Spanish guitar" A name that was used years ago to distinguish between a lap style guitar and and the upright guitar with fretts.

Jerry

Solid Guitar.


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Originally Posted by The Gibson Website
When it first hit the scene back in 1961, the Gibson SG (short for Solid Guitar) was the most radical design the electric guitar world had witnessed so far, and it still makes a bold statement today.

Les Paul didn't like it, at requested that his name be removed from it, as it was originally a "Les Paul" too.

targa911S 02-01-2012 12:15 PM

thanks Wolfe.

Jared at Pelican Parts 02-01-2012 12:39 PM

SG most certainly stands for Solid Guitar.

Les Pauls werent selling well in 1959-60, so they decided to change the body style to the SG, but still call it a Les Paul. The original Les Paul style was discontinued, hence why 1959 Les Pauls are worth north of $500K

Les Paul didnt like the SG style and asked his name be taken off it, but Gibson had excess stock of les Paul logos, etc.. so they used them on the very early SG's.

Jared at Pelican Parts 02-01-2012 12:44 PM

The electric guitar goes back way further than Leo Fender and Les Paul, btw. Charlie Christian, George Barnes.. even Django played electric.

JMPRO 02-01-2012 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfeMacleod (Post 6530883)
Solid Guitar.




Les Paul didn't like it, at requested that his name be removed from it, as it was originally a "Les Paul" too.

I couldn't find that info on the gibson web site, however I did find it in a wekipedia article that I have found quite often to have many errors. Gibson used the "ES' code to indicate an "Electric-spanish" guitar and I still think the SG stands for spanish guitar.
Jerry

slodave 02-01-2012 02:36 PM

Solid guitar...

The Gibson SG: 50 Essential Facts

JMPRO 02-01-2012 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by slodave (Post 6531142)

Read it and I will yeld to a higher authority however I am still not convinced until I can check with someone that will really know the truth. Even the guys now at Fender somtimes have a hard time coming up with the real history and print Internet rumors as fact.
That does not alter the fact that its a cool guitar and I hope they get their asking price although it doesn't look like they will. I'm thinking about going to ebay with my old Strat soon and it would be nice to know there are big spenders out there willing to put out the big bucks.
Jerry

targa911S 02-01-2012 03:13 PM

Geez Jerrry...give it up.

JMPRO 02-01-2012 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by targa911S (Post 6531214)
Geez Jerrry...give it up.

I have a question out to a guy I know that wrote the book on Gibson and probably knows more about Gibson than they do. An interesting quote I read a few years back was a Fender big shot refering questions about Fender history to Richard Smith who wrote the book "Fender, the sound heard around the world", check with Richard he said, he knows more about our history than I do.
Jerry

nostatic 02-01-2012 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by targa911S (Post 6531214)
Geez Jerrry...give it up.

http://www.lostwildcat.com/avatars/Wrong_Internet.jpg

azasadny 02-01-2012 04:28 PM

Wow! I saw a video of her and Les playing "How High the Moon" (my favorite) and she wasn't playing this guitar, she had a gold colored Les Paul, I believe...

slodave 02-01-2012 04:31 PM

I'm sure she was allowed to own more than one guitar. :D

john walker's workshop 02-01-2012 05:11 PM

didn't paul tutmarc invent the electric bass before leo?

targa911S 02-01-2012 05:49 PM

But weren't those more electric bass "Fiddles''...it hurt to type that. I mean you didn't put it over yer knee. The early Gibson EB (electric bass) I. It could be played upright or as a guitar.

wdfifteen 02-01-2012 05:54 PM

The Smithsonian Channel has an entertaining show about the development of the electric guitar. It may even be factual.

Electrified: The Guitar Revolution - Smithsonian Channel

JMPRO 02-02-2012 10:03 AM

I just heard back from a guy I know. Robb Lawrence, celebrated author of at least a dozen books, 4 of which are about Gibson guitars and Les Paul. Robb was a long time friend of Les Paul and Leo Fender and can tell you what kind of toilet paper they used at the Gibson factory in 1949, well maybe not that much detail but he has done so much research he probably knows more than anyone about Gibson.
Robb response is that the "SG" stands for Spanish guitar not solid guitar. Spanish guitar was a very common name years ago to distinguish between what was called back then the Hawaiian steel guitar and the upright fretted guitar. When I was a kid people did not use the name "Solid body" to refer to any guitar. It was simply a Spanish guitar, acoustic or not. When I worked at Fender in 1960 nobody said "Hey, hand me that solid body".
Jerry

Head416 02-02-2012 10:34 AM

It's not Super Carrera, it doesn't stand for ANYTHING!

Oh, sorry... thought I was somewhere else. SmileWavy


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