Kroil. Shere can I get some?

[look 171]

maybe. A long time ago, I was dumb enough to buy Campy grease. It works ok, what did I know? It was used in everything from repacking hubs and BBs, to greasing seat posts. I can't or refuse to understand back then why a 99 cent tub of Shell grease at K mark was not good enough for my bike? The dumb Campy grease was something like 15 bucks. Park grease is good stuff. Now, how do I get some of that stuff in my shifter will keep up all night?

[jyl]

You obviously need to go electric. Probably not much greasing in a Di2 shifter.

[BernieP]

Midway USA has it their latest flyer for $7.49 + shipping.

BernieP

[sammyg2]

I buy about 20 gallons of kroil a year for my shops and field machinists/millwrights, IMO it's the best stuff out there.
I've seen the atf/acetone report but color me skeptical. There's much more to determining what works and what doesn't than the simple test they performed.
In real world application kroil works really, really well.

BTW it's available in aerosol or liquid form, buying it in non-aerosol is way cheaper and better for the environment and worker safety. Just put it in a $1 spray bottle. More on the parts, less in the air to breathe.

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by look 171

maybe. A long time ago, I was dumb enough to buy Campy grease. It works ok, what did I know? It was used in everything from repacking hubs and BBs, to greasing seat posts. I can't or refuse to understand back then why a 99 cent tub of Shell grease at K mark was not good enough for my bike? The dumb Campy grease was something like 15 bucks. Park grease is good stuff. Now, how do I get some of that stuff in my shifter will keep up all night?

LOL back when I was in college (the first time) I worked at a pro bike shop to pay tuition.
Whenever I sold a set of campy hubs or bottom bracket or was servicing them, the first thing I'd do was wash out all the campy grease and replace it with waterproof Phil wood grease. And only a little, not too much. I loved that stuff and it wasn't expensive.

I also used to pack the higher end japanese hubs (shimano etc) with crest toothpaste and ride them for a half mile or so and then rebuild them with new ball bearings, It polished the races without damaging them, making them so much smoother and more precise than the campy stuff ever was.
Racers paid big $$$ for that kind of stuff.

I also got $6 each to patch sew-ups as a side job. Righteous bucks back then.
I got to where I could almost do it unconsciously while watching TV.

[MBAtarga]

I've used the ATF/acetone mix and it does work well. I've never used Kroil - so I don't have a direct comparison. The only problem with the ATF/acetone mix is how to store and dispense it. I've got a small old-style pump oil dispenser, but this mixture is so low in viscosity, it leaks all over and is difficult to control placement.

[RWebb]

the other, and more serious, problem is to avoid exposure to the acetone -- it is not exactly good for you...

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

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I also used to pack the higher end japanese hubs (shimano etc) with crest toothpaste and ride them for a half mile or so and then rebuild them with new ball bearings, It polished the races without damaging them, making them so much smoother and more precise than the campy stuff ever was.

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that's a good trick sammy

[M.D. Holloway]

Tell that to the 180,000,000 women in the US that use it to take of fingernail polish! Agree, the stuff is harsh on your liver.

[RWebb]

I have indeed explained the problem to a few of them...

Maybe you can help, since the number is so large. Let's split it in half. I will take the hottest 90,000 minus the crazy redheads, and you can take the rest of them.

[M.D. Holloway]

I'll take the redheads between 28 and 43, size 6 or less...

[scottmandue]

Originally Posted by RWebb

the other, and more serious, problem is to avoid exposure to the acetone -- it is not exactly good for you...

Yeah but mixed with cranberry juice it is a mean buzz!

[Danimal16]

Originally Posted by Evans, Marv

As I understand it, Kroil isn't legal to sell over the counter in Kali., but there seems to be no problem with ordering it from Kano labs. That's kind of weird if you ask me, but then again, it's Kali. For your application I'd follow Sherwood's solution for getting the old stuff off. As far as lubing the shifter & chain, there are other choices like Dupont Teflon Multipurpose Dry Wax Lubricant from Lowe's. I use that sparingly on my motorcycle chain.

I buy it over the counter all the time in California, both aerosol and liquid. You can find it at fastener supplies, industrial supplies or order over the net.

The 50/50 atf/acetone is really interesting.

[Danimal16]

Originally Posted by MBAtarga

I've used the ATF/acetone mix and it does work well. I've never used Kroil - so I don't have a direct comparison. The only problem with the ATF/acetone mix is how to store and dispense it. I've got a small old-style pump oil dispenser, but this mixture is so low in viscosity, it leaks all over and is difficult to control placement.

I use a device similar to this:

Sentry Solutions: Precision Applicator Needle Oiler Bottles

If you go to a hobby shop you will find a metal needle dispenser normally used for very thin plastic cements. see what they have.

[944Larry]

Originally Posted by Danimal16

I use a device similar to this:

Sentry Solutions: Precision Applicator Needle Oiler Bottles

If you go to a hobby shop you will find a metal needle dispenser normally used for very thin plastic cements. see what they have.

Thanks for posting that. I looked all over town for a needle oiler a while back. Most people looked at me like I escaped from somewhere.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by Danimal16

I buy it over the counter all the time in California, both aerosol and liquid. You can find it at fastener supplies, industrial supplies or order over the net.

The 50/50 atf/acetone is really interesting.

Good to know. Where are you in CA? You never know when something like that will come up and you have to have it immediately. something about buying an item over the counter the old fashion way.

[911pcars]

Here's a list of penetrating oils from McMaster-Carr. Usually 1-2 day turnaround in LA.

McMaster-Carr

However, you may have to buy a case qty.

S

[mattdavis11]

S'OK! is the best stuff out there. It's never been compared to the popular penetrating oils in a testing environment/competition because it's in a league of its own. Kroil won't accept an open invitation for comparison. I have to recon they know they'd lose.

Shamrock Specialties - S'OK! and TAT'L

[lm6y]

Sammy, I used to do the same thing, but start off with Semichrome, and then toothpaste. I have a set of Zeus hubs on the Cannondale that's smooth as silk. We also used to mix Mobil1 30W, and parafin in a pot with low heat, and then soak our cleaned chains in it, wipe it down, and reinstal them. We need to start a thread on this kinda stuff.

[Danimal16]

Originally Posted by look 171

Good to know. Where are you in CA? You never know when something like that will come up and you have to have it immediately. something about buying an item over the counter the old fashion way.

I live in Ventura County. You have a PM.

DanB