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Steve Carlton 10-24-2017 08:18 AM

My bad. Dr. Ana Stelline is the daughter of Deckhard, not Mariette. Mariette was the replicant resistance member who kindly provided her body for K to have sex with Joi.

sand_man 10-24-2017 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 9788989)
My bad. Dr. Ana Stelline is the daughter of Deckhard, not Mariette. Mariette was the replicant resistance member who kindly provided her body for K to have sex with Joi.

Yes.

snbush67 10-24-2017 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by WPOZZZ (Post 9788606)
If I didn't see the original, would I understand the new one?

It doesn't matter really, likely you wont understand either.

If you do watch the first one there are several versions, so depending on which one you watch could influence your understanding.

The differences are subtle but significant.

The first film was released in 1982, so consider that.

Then there's the book that the films were loosely based upon.

This will help you understand...read this;


"A blood black nothingness began to spin. Began to spin.



Let's move on to system.


System.
Feel that in your body. The system.
What does it feel like to be part of the system. System.
Is there anything in your body that wants to resist the system? System.
Do you get pleasure out of being a part of the system? System.
Have they created you to be a part of the system? System.
Is there security in being a part of the system? System.
Is there a sound that comes with the system? System.



We're going to go on. Cells.
They were all put together at a time. Cells.
Millions and billions of them. Cells.
Were you ever arrested? Cells.
Did you spend much time in the cell? Cells.
Have you ever been in an institution? Cells.
Do they keep you in a cell? Cells.

When you're not performing your duties do they keep you in a little box? Cells.



Interlinked.
What's it like to hold the hand of someone you love? Interlinked.
Do they teach you how to feel finger to finger? Interlinked.
Do you long for having your heart interlinked? Interlinked.
Do you dream about being interlinked?
Have they left a place for you where you can dream? Interlinked.
What's it like to hold your child in your arms? Interlinked.
What's it like to play with your dog? Interlinked.
Do you feel that there's a part of you that's missing? Interlinked.
Do you like to connect to things? Interlinked.
What happens when that linkage is broken? Interlinked.
Have they let you feel heartbreak? Interlinked.



Did you buy a present for the person you love? Within cells interlinked.
Why don't you say that three times? Within cells interlinked. Within cells interlinked. Within cells interlinked.



Where do you go when you go within? Within.
Has anyone ever locked you out of a room? Within.
Within.
Where do you go to when you go within? Within.
Where is the place in the world you feel the safest? Within.
Do you have a heart? Within.



Stem.
Did you pick asparagus stems?
What comes from something else? Stem.
Have you been to the source of a river? Stem.
When's the first time you gave a flower to a girl? Stem.
What did she look like? Stem.
Is it a slang word for people's legs? Stem.
Have you planeted things in the ground? Stem.
Have you ever been in a legal battle? Stem.
Within one stem.



Dreadfully.
Is that an old fashioned word? Dreadfully.
Did you ever want to live in the nineteenth century? Dreadfully.
What's it like to be filled with dread? Dreadfully.
Do you think you could find out all the answers to all the questions? Dreadfully.



Distinct.
How good are your eyes? Distinct.
Do you have a particular personality? Distinct.
What separates somebody from somebody else? Distinct.
Who do you admire most in the world? Distinct.
What was your most shameful moment? Distinct.
Dreadfully distinct.



Dark.
Were you afraid of the dark whan you were little? Dark.
What's it like to hide under a bed? Dark.
Did they keep you in a drawer when they were building you? Dark?
Was it dark in there? Dark.
Do you have dark thoughts? Dark?
Did they program you to have dark thoughts? Dark?
Do you think it's some kind of corruption these dark thoughts? Dark.
Maybe it's a spot of rust or something? Dark.
Who's the darkest person you know? Dark.
What is it like when someone gives you the silent treatment. Dark.
Who did you get your darkness from? Dark.
Against the dark.
What kind of power do you have against the dark. Against the dark.
Do you think there is such a thing as evil? Against the dark.
Do you think you can protect people against the dark. Against the dark.
Why are these things happening? Against the dark.
Do you prefer the day or the night? Against the dark.
When is the last time you saw a starry sky? Against the dark.
What's your favorite part of the moon? Against the dark.



Fountain.
Have you seen the Trevi fountain in Rome? Fountain.
Have you ever seen the fountain in Lincoln center? Fountain.
Have you seen fountains out in the wild? Fountain.
What's it like when you have an orgasm. Fountain.
Have you read the Fountainhead? Fountain.
White Fountain.
Is it pure white? White Fountain.
Is that a metaphor? White Fountain.



How did the white Fountain make you feel? White Fountain.



A tall white fountain played.
When you were little did you ever fall into a Fountain? A Tall White Fountain.
Do you like fire, earth, air or water. A Tall White Fountain.
Do you like skipping around in the water? A Tall White Fountain.



A blood black nothingness.
A system of cells.

Within cells interlinked.
Within one stem.
And dreadfully distinct.
Against the dark.
A tall white fountain played."

vash 02-18-2018 07:46 PM

Wow. Good movie. I might need to rewatch it. I bet I missed tons of info.

Two relatively unknown hot chicks as a bonus.

JackDidley 02-18-2018 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 9931837)
Wow. Good movie. I might need to rewatch it. I bet I missed tons of info.

Two relatively unknown hot chicks as a bonus.

I also need to watch again. I saw it when it first came out. Lots of questions. I will watch again to figure out some answers. I watched the original Blade Runner, then watched it again and then again each time picking up details.

tabs 02-18-2018 09:36 PM

The whole movie is a setup for the Rutger Hauer soliquie at the end where the robot expresses the existential angst about the bitter sweet nature of life. Which is as poiginant or has more clarity and definition than most human beings. That was the point of the whole movie.

sc_rufctr 02-19-2018 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 9788989)
My bad. Dr. Ana Stelline is the daughter of Deckhard, not Mariette. Mariette was the replicant resistance member who kindly provided her body for K to have sex with Joi.

Hi Tech threesome! :D

Steve Carlton 06-12-2018 01:22 PM

It's out in HBO, etc now. What an amazing movie.

- the best sequel I've ever seen. Well grounded with the original- same future feel of Los Angeles, similar music, slick sets.
- Ryan Gosling conveyed the inner struggle of the replicants very well. Great job in that role.
- love the holographic girlfriend concept. Wish it was available now... Ana de Armas was so cute, yet incredibly smart and intuitive.
- big fan of Sylvia Hoeks now. Calm, yet lethal villain. Yet sympathetic- tears in her eyes while witnessing and doing horrible things. Supermodel caliber woman made to look odd with the big bangs- like Javier Bardem in No Country for Old Men. Simply says "bad dog" to K while kicking him unconscious in the head. Didn't kill him- nice touch.
- great job portraying future technology without making it the centerpiece of the movie.


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