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snbush67 10-23-2017 05:16 PM

The other cops called him a skin job because they didn’t know he wasn’t. Don’t you remember when k had to answer a bunch of questions a certain way before getting paid?

He was child of a skin job, he had the traits of a skin job, but he was born.

That’s what the writer wants you to feel; that inability to wrap your head around when it’s ok to kill a living thing, the possiblity that replicants could overtake normal humans by reproduction. The writer wants you to struggle with empathy and humanity. He wants you to wrestle with weather or not it’s ok to mess with bioengineering and creating life or body parts, etc.

snbush67 10-23-2017 05:20 PM

...another thing. The records of a whole year were missing from the child slave factory, that was the year that k was there, he was looking for himself in the past and the things that could confirm it were missing, then he went and found the horse that was right where he had left it, proving that his memories were real.

sand_man 10-23-2017 05:23 PM

I think you're mistaken.

Scott R 10-23-2017 05:25 PM

I thought the other twin was just a ruse to further hide the records, but I see what you're saying too.

snbush67 10-23-2017 05:30 PM

...the serial number on the bones of remains, confirms that Rachel was a replicant. It could be possible that Deckard isn’t, but I think he is. Gaff again makes a reference through his oragami, this time with a sheep. His reference paralleles the book DADOES in which there is no doubt he is a replicant.

sc_rufctr 10-23-2017 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by snbush67 (Post 9788358)
...another thing. The records of a whole year were missing from the child slave factory, that was the year that k was there, he was looking for himself in the past and the things that could confirm it were missing, then he went and found the horse that was right where he had left it, proving that his memories were real.

That horse could have belonged to anyone. The memory of the horse and its location could have been implanted in K.
No doubt this movie will be debated for decades like the original.

Wetwork 10-23-2017 05:32 PM

OK up to 8 pages...was I the only one who wasn't impressed by the dugs? Either none or better?-WW

sand_man 10-23-2017 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott R (Post 9788376)
I thought the other twin was just a ruse to further hide the records...

I think it was.

sc_rufctr 10-23-2017 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Wetwork (Post 9788390)
OK up to 8 pages...was I the only one who wasn't impressed by the dugs? Either none or better?-WW

What do you mean by "dugs" or is that a typo?

Wetwork 10-23-2017 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 9788395)
What do you mean by "dugs" or is that a typo?

D...U...G's

snbush67 10-23-2017 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sand_man (Post 9788365)
I think you're mistaken.

That would mean that someone else is planting stuff. The wooden toy horse would have to have been planted in the factory. The records of the matching DNA would have to have been made up. Is that your theory?

The black out conveniently created a ‘blank canvas” for this films director to go anywhere he wanted, the black out was genious.

Gaff seems to know more than he’s letting on, perhaps it’s a big conspiracy, or it’s all just a dream of an Android.

snbush67 10-23-2017 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 9788388)
That horse could have belonged to anyone. The memory of the horse and its location could have been implanted in K.
No doubt this movie will be debated for decades like the original.

OK then why the conspiracy? What’s the motive to plant crap to make this replicant believe he’s human?

sand_man 10-23-2017 05:43 PM

I guess we can all walk away with different interpretations.

I thought the entire plot twist hinged on the fact that K wasn't the offspring of Rachel and Deckert. And that the memories he had, which led him to believe he was (or might have been), were really implanted by the actual and true offspring...the memory maker. Even in her own words she indicated something about every artist leaving a little piece of themselves behind. And maybe more than one replicant had this same memory.

If you think about it, K was no longer needed after he brought them together. He just laid on the steps out front...mission accomplished.

Scott R 10-23-2017 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sand_man (Post 9788411)
I guess we can all walk away with different interpretations.

I thought the entire plot twist hinged on the fact that K wasn't the offspring of Rachel and Deckert. And that the memories he had, which led him to believe he was (or might have been), were really implanted by the actual and true offspring...the memory maker. Even in her own words she indicated something about every artist leaving a little piece of themselves behind. And maybe more than one replicant had this same memory.

If you think about it, K was no longer needed after he brought them together. He just laid on the steps out front...mission accomplished.

This is how I figured it as well.

sand_man 10-23-2017 05:50 PM

Furthermore, maybe this was done intentionally by the memory maker so that K would be the one to reunite her with Deckert...

snbush67 10-23-2017 05:52 PM

Deckard was trying to avoid them both, to protect them.

The movie did exactly what it was supposed to do, leave questions in your head, leave enough space for ones own perspective. That’s the same thing the first movie did.

Scott R 10-23-2017 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by snbush67 (Post 9788421)
Deckard was trying to avoid them both, to protect them.

The movie did exactly what it was supposed to do, leave questions in your head, leave enough space for ones own perspective. That’s the same thing the first movie did.

This is one reason I love both of them.

sand_man 10-23-2017 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott R (Post 9788422)
This is one reason I love both of them.

Me too.

snbush67 10-23-2017 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott R (Post 9788414)
This is how I figured it as well.

Ok, now you guys got me rethinking it, I know the resistance people talked about the memories, and the memory maker girl. Maybe I missed something. I’m going to go back and watch it again.

snbush67 10-23-2017 06:05 PM

The dog was real....right?


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