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sc_rufctr 10-23-2017 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by snbush67 (Post 9788434)
The dog was real....right?

I don't think he was. He looked pretty or designed but as you know we've been doing the to dogs for a long time with breeding so he could be real.

sc_rufctr 10-23-2017 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Wetwork (Post 9788401)
D...U...G's

I must be a dumass because I still don't understand this.

Do you mean the flying vehicles?

Scott R 10-23-2017 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 9788437)
I don't think he was. He looked pretty or designed but as you know we've been doing the to dogs for a long time with breeding so he could be real.

Based on the original short story there is no way the dog is real.

Wetwork 10-23-2017 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 9788450)
I must be a dumass because I still don't understand this.

Do you mean the flying vehicles?

Nope not dumb, just haven't heard the term this way before..


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Steve Carlton 10-23-2017 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by snbush67 (Post 9788434)
The dog was real....right?

Ask him.

Steve Carlton 10-23-2017 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by snbush67 (Post 9788430)
Ok, now you guys got me rethinking it, I know the resistance people talked about the memories, and the memory maker girl. Maybe I missed something. I’m going to go back and watch it again.

Mariette (the memory maker) was Deckard's daughter. She was in the orphanage and had the real, original memory of the horse. Remember she cried when she saw it?

Definitely see it a second time. I thought it was better after I had a head start on it.

snbush67 10-23-2017 08:25 PM

Newsflash:

I was wrong, I guess I missed the part when a one eyed lady explains the memory implants. My son explained it to me. So all the replicants got the horse implant.

So I get it now. It’s kind of a downer. I like my version better.

Thanks to everyone for clearing that up.

But I’m not giving up, that easy...I think I remember during the bone autopsy that they deternined that a child had been passed through the birthing canal, and another had been born c section?

Did I recall that correctly?

snbush67 10-23-2017 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott R (Post 9788466)
Based on the original short story there is no way the dog is real.

Ok, how about the bees; were the bees real?

snbush67 10-23-2017 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 9788437)
I don't think he was. He looked pretty or designed but as you know we've been doing the to dogs for a long time with breeding so he could be real.

If you stayed till the end and watched the outskes k ask the dog if he’s real and the dog craps on the rug.

snbush67 10-23-2017 09:37 PM

https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2017/10/23/life-after-empathy-on-blade-runner-2049/

Driving cross-country some years ago, I pulled off Interstate 76, among the arroyos and tumbleweed at Fort Morgan, Colorado. Philip K. Dick lay buried somewhere in the cemetery there. But where? At the public library, a sweet old lady volunteer flipped the pages of a bound burial record until she found the grave’s location. I wrote it down, thanked her, and wandered around until I found a double tombstone, about a foot high, bearing the names Philip and Jane, Dick’s twin sister, dead in infancy. (Before he died in 1982, Dick purchased the plot next to hers.)

WPOZZZ 10-23-2017 11:25 PM

If I didn't see the original, would I understand the new one?

sand_man 10-24-2017 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by snbush67 (Post 9788533)
...It’s kind of a downer. I like my version better...

BTW, we liked "your version" better too. And that's the same conclusion my son and I came to in the theatre, until the movie further unfolded.

And that plot actually had a similar feel to another movie from the '80s, "Angel Heart". About a man who sells his soul to the devil. The devil returns some years later in disguise to hire the man, now working as a private detective, to find somebody. Turns out, he's trying to find himself! He had forgotten all about his original deal.

sc_rufctr 10-24-2017 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by WPOZZZ (Post 9788606)
If I didn't see the original, would I understand the new one?

Ideally you'd see the original first but this movie does stand on its own so yes it's worth seeing and you should be able to follow the story line.

sc_rufctr 10-24-2017 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sand_man (Post 9788618)
BTW, we liked "your version" better too. And that's the same conclusion my son and I came to in the theatre, until the movie further unfolded.

And that plot actually had a similar feel to another movie from the '80s, "Angel Heart". About a man who sells his soul to the devil. The devil returns some years later in disguise to hire the man, now working as a private detective, to find somebody. Turns out, he's trying to find himself! He had forgotten all about his original deal.

"Angel Heart"... Mickey Rourke, Robert De Niro & Lisa Bonet (who apparently asked Bill Cosby for advice before accepting the roll because she had to do some nude/sex scenes. :rolleyes:)

Great movie but from memory there are some disturbing scenes.

sc_rufctr 10-24-2017 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by snbush67 (Post 9788572)
If you stayed till the end and watched the outskes k ask the dog if he’s real and the dog craps on the rug.

Manufactured dogs would poop to.

sand_man 10-24-2017 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 9788624)

Great movie but from memory there are some disturbing scenes.

Yeah for sure!

JeremyD 10-24-2017 04:31 AM

They all had the memory - but I also think that it leaves the door open to K being the other twin...

I liked the movie - because the deeper you dig - the more questions (and possibilities) there are.

Steve Carlton 10-24-2017 07:34 AM

I think K was set up to be red herring, a false lead, to protect Mariette. No twin.

sand_man 10-24-2017 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 9788924)
I think K was set up to be red herring, a false lead, to protect Mariette. No twin.

Me too.

EDIT: ooops, spoke too soon, without first thinking about who Mariette was. I actually hadn't thought about your theory before. INTERESTING!

stevej37 10-24-2017 08:09 AM

We may have to wait for more answers until the next one comes out in 2052 (Blade Runner 2084)


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