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Installed some high performance yet historic windows.
![]() ![]() If you can't tell which ones are new, that's the point. Now on to adjusting weatherstripping the casements and awning windows. Like these: ![]() |
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Beautiful work!!
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Well, to be fair, the upstairs double hungs and center picture windows are the new ones. They are "tilt pacs" or "sash replacement kits." Custom made for the original jambs but with the new vinyl jamb liner technology and high performance glass. Price is comparable to a high end all vinyl window except for the painting.
The house across the street is the same style and vintage (1914) and has all vinyl windows. It looks ridiculous. |
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nice - I've seen historic style but high performance windows in catalogs - which ones were these?
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Thanks, Art. The beautiful work is really in the windows the guy makes for me. I just have to figure out how to put his perfectly square windows in old trapezoidal openings.
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![]() A similar product, but not nealy as nice and without the upper sash lugs (the curlyque thingys). |
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Nice. Very nice.
A great solution to an age-old problem!
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Great work by a great craftsman. Kudos to you.
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I've seen historic style but high performance windows in catalogs
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Really nice, hard to see what's been done. Just the way it should be.
Put me inline for your east coast swing, please. |
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I intended to show some of the work. I got so wrapped up in doing the installation that I forgot to take pics along the way. I have purchased and installed well over $100,000 of these windows over the years. You would think I could calm down.
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I may have seen them in the Marvin catalog.
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Very nice, Milt.
Have long admired Greene & Greene-style Craftsmans. Now that home’s windows function properly too! Last edited by splinterAMG; 06-29-2012 at 05:55 AM.. Reason: typo |
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I like them. How ironic as I'm redoing a 1914 home in the similar lines and soon to be up on the market. Everything is now structurally and mechanically sound except the windows need replacement.
I could see going with these period looking windows but curious to see some of the energy ratings and construction. Are they good enough for harsh Chicago weather? Someone metioned Marvin... I love them especially the quality for the money. Pella is next to Crestline on the bottom of the list.
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Windows used in our local climate do not necessarily meet Chicago type weather needs.
Here, high performance is LowE protection and sound abatement. For those two objectives I specify single pane laminated glass, 1/4" thick. Since it rarely goes below 40 degrees here, dual pane with internal gas is somewhat overkill. The important aspect of replacing the old rope, pulley and weight balanced windows is getting new sash that is weatherstripped air tight. Dual pane works here, don't get me wrong. But single pane has the historic look. Since many of the original windows will be retained, having the new and old look alike is the goal. In more severe weather zones the National Trust for Historic Preservation recommends air tight storm windows (year round for air conditioned houses). Storm windows that will open for fresh air are available. Marvin Windows does indeed make a Tilt Pac system and they are dual pane. They are also clad on the outside surface as an option with a factory finish. If your openings are square and the new windows don't have to be scribed to fit up closely to the head jamb and the sill, this is a good option. IOW, you can't cut on a clad product. On these old houses, I have to cut and fit each one. |
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I'll keep you in mind Milt. My sister and her husband live in Highland Park, and they have a historical overlay. A few of their windows are pretty bad. They will need to be replaced with something historically accurate.
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