Scientific fearless predictions.....

[RWebb]

you are even sillier than wrickie

[flatbutt]

Originally Posted by RWebb

Exactly.

And the Atlantic conveyor current will be interrupted, meaning severe climatic problems in Europe. If you think the current economic problems in Europe are something, I promise you this is just a minor blip in comparison.

Next to a new Krakatoa or some such this ^ would definitely be devastating.

[teenerted1]

Originally Posted by nota

the fabled northwest passage is opening soon ice breakers will not be needed

that didnt work out so well for the alaskan town that was running out of fuel this winter and needed the one working westcoast ice breaker to get the russian tanker into port.

[teenerted1]

Originally Posted by RWebb

Exactly.

And the Atlantic conveyor current will be interrupted, meaning severe climatic problems in Europe. If you think the current economic problems in Europe are something, I promise you this is just a minor blip in comparison.

and when the conveyor is interupted guess what happens? thats right the poles will start getting colder again.

[RWebb]

you don't know what is, do you?

[mikeesik]

With the ice gone or going and the warming trend-water expands.

[ckissick]

Originally Posted by RWebb

The first premise is an odd one -- I am curious as to where you read that.

A few years ago Scientific American published an article concerning an explosion in biological diversity and population in the Amazon rain forest during a prehistoric episode of global warming. It was the opposite of what the researchers were expecting.

[mikesride]

Yeah those Arctic ice levels are now at the same point as they were in 1859..... I am pretty worked up over......Whoa! Squirrel! Squirrel! Look at the Squirrel!

[ronster]

Originally Posted by recycled sixtie

Today I saw a forecast that the Arctic ice would be gone in ten years. The way I see it is if that is the case then the oceans would be warmer, more sustained hot weather, more moisture in the air, more thunderstorms, tornadoes, floods etc etc. I hope this is not the case. What do you think?

Not so grasshopper. Arctic ice is freshwater which displaces salt water and does not hold heat like salt water. This heat wave we're experiencing will soon turn into an ice age. Look what England and Europe are experiencing in the winters for the last two years.

[mikeesik]

whole point is somethings brewing that even the kids notice.. You cannot deny that.
It's not just a quirk but a constant change of irregular weather.

I understand communications throughout the world are instantaneous and anomalies are reported daily, as opposed from the last generation to the generation before.
Always weird weather has been, but REALLY weird weather is the norm now.
WHY ?

[futurefun]

I have wondered about the why part too & got some perspective from a geologist friend. While he had a lot to say there were a couple of things that stuck in my mind as areas of concern. In part we are nearing the apex in the procession of the equinox where things like gravitational & electromagnetic fields may be less stable. The sun has been very active with a number of X Class & M Class coronal mass ejections, solar flares, as it approaches the solar maximus. As you have noticed the glacial & ice caps melting not only can raise ocean levels but also all of that is fresh water which decreases the salinity & specific gravity of the water in the Atlantic conveyor belt, already slowing that flow. If "nothing happens" I will be very happy.

[rattlsnak]

isnt this the same basic Global Warming debate we've had on here countless times?

[A930Rocket]

We're all going to die!!!!!

[nynor]

Originally Posted by mikeesik

whole point is somethings brewing that even the kids notice.. You cannot deny that.
It's not just a quirk but a constant change of irregular weather.

I understand communications throughout the world are instantaneous and anomalies are reported daily, as opposed from the last generation to the generation before.
Always weird weather has been, but REALLY weird weather is the norm now.
WHY ?

really? how many hurricanes have we had.... oh, wait, that is really weird weather...

[mikeesik]

Originally Posted by nynor

really? how many hurricanes have we had.... oh, wait, that is really weird weather...

Hurricane's are not weird anymore, but how many and intense ...maybe.
But-I wasn't just talking about wind.

[RWebb]

here is the latest analysis of extreme events

yes, in aggregate they are being driven by global warming

Perception of climate change

[nynor]

Originally Posted by mikeesik

Hurricane's are not weird anymore, but how many and intense ...maybe.
But-I wasn't just talking about wind.

my point is that we haven't seen any with real intensity, this year. you'd think that with our record heat and off the hook global warming there would be some real doozies, per the doom and gloomers re. global warming and storm intensity...

we haven't gotten above a category 1, this year:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Atlantic_hurricane_season

but, hey, i'll just bow out.

[mikeesik]

Originally Posted by A930Rocket

We're all going to die!!!!!

yeah umhumm.
Unfortunately I have 2 kids to worry about their fear and hardships.
Other that that....bring it on. I mean that without any sort of toughness in my breath.

I am not afraid but assume to be an observer for as long as I may last.

[mikeesik]

The Sun, the moon and the mountains are still where they ought to be. I still weigh as much as I did last year- Dammit!-So much for gravitational fields. If north becomes south. Let it be. Remember the cartoons about digging all the way to China.? Those cartoons you can then watch in reverse and you will be back home again. No way National Geographic can do that for you.

[nota]

Originally Posted by mikesride

Yeah those Arctic ice levels are now at the same point as they were in 1859..... I am pretty worked up over......Whoa! Squirrel! Squirrel! Look at the Squirrel!

?
where did you get that spin

1859 was way before real exploration even started
no aircraft let alone sat pic
no subs or sonar to get thickness data ether

in short no real data in 1859 for most of the arctic ice