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did you know you can pull a muscle in your armpit?

i didnt even know my armpit had a muscle.

anyway, muscle or not, it's sore. why? because GUNSAFES are the worst thing to move on the planet. i say this having never moved a grand piano, but i still think it's the worst. heavy, dense, can kill you..

i'm thinking of starting to hate guns and everything else that requires a gun safe.. go full anti gun. or anti gravity. something needs to be hated.

BUT..success!! moved it safely into my apartment kitchen. hahaha..yes, the kitchen was the closest landing spot that was near the door. done!! my wife can deal with it.

in approx..two months, i'll need to move it again. hopefully to my new house. i'm gonna hire the same two movers. they were badass..and being paid by the hour, hence the reasoning for me to jump onto the team. we tipped them handsomely so they should answer the phone when i call them up..i'll stiff them on the tip next time. JK

oh, running guns into an apartment thru the courtyard under the cloak of darkness..good times!!

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I worked at a car wash in high school, someone swung a car door open on me as I was going inside to wash the windows. Caught me right in the armpit, hurt like the dickens for a few weeks, that was about 38 years ago. You have glands there, nasty business.
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Gun safe? I was going to say switch to the other hand, but I was thinking of a different sort of gun.
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I was having a discussion with my neighbor, just standing there, and my back went out. Took 6 months recovery to where I was not dragging my left foot when I walked. That was in my early 40's. No issues until my early 50's and somehow in my sleep injured my back again...
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I went to a seafood disco last week and pulled a muscle.
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The gun safe I want is 600 lbs+. It needs to go into the basement but its unpossible to get it down there....even using other,younger armpits.
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The gun safe I want is 600 lbs+. It needs to go into the basement but its unpossible to get it down there....even using other,younger armpits.
Just hire a professional safe moving company. We had a huge safe that we bought to keep camera equipment locked up. We bought it from a jewelry company that was going out of business. We all stood there wondering how they got it in there and how we could move it. The good news is a local safe moving company did it like it was a common thing, and it was. The same company moved it out of there when digital photography made a safe full of Hassleblads and Sinar view cameras virtually worthless.
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I was having a discussion with my neighbor, just standing there, and my back went out....
Something like that happened to me about ten years ago, just sitting at my computer and my back tighten up so quickly that I could not draw a breath.

I went to see a chiropractor which I had designed his office a year or two year before and he said it just didn't happen "all of a sudden for no reason". He explained that my hips and spine were out of alignment and the muscles had been compensating and straining because of it for years and could no longer continue in this manner.

I went into his office unable to move very much, it was a great effort just to get there.

By the end of the examination and a few corrections later I was feeling better, could at least take a deep breath. Then I dropped my keys on the way out, I just bent down and picked them up, and I was sold on the chiropractic approach.
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Just hire a professional safe moving company. We had a huge safe that we bought to keep camera equipment locked up. We bought it from a jewelry company that was going out of business. We all stood there wondering how they got it in there and how we could move it. The good news is a local safe moving company did it like it was a common thing, and it was. The same company moved it out of there when digital photography made a safe full of Hassleblads and Sinar view cameras virtually worthless.
this!

i was just driving next to two neanderthal looking dudes. today. necks like tree trunks. the sign on the side of the truck? "Bay Area Safe moving"...seriously. now i find them. the truck had a lift gate and a boom arm. bad ass. and the dollys in the back were huge.

we broke the movers fridge dolly saturday. a wheel broke. it lasted long enough to get the work done. lucky.

next time, bare minimum. i am requesting an vending machine dolly. rated to 1400 lbs. the trick is bigger diameter wheels.

and according to the movers. an 800lb safe is considered small in the safe world. crazy.
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Yup... When its time for heavy stuff call in the pros...


We recently got rid of some big heavy office furniture that was in our loft. I had looked at the big one piece desk multiple times and couldn't figure out how it was coming down the stairs without killing someone. The pros that took it out, brought it down like it was nothing. Just two of them against this 300lb desk!
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We've moved my mother-in-laws box grand piano twice. The second time we moved it, we told her that we were NEVER moving it again...

We have a large ummmm...."document storage" safe made by Liberty that is well in excess of 600 lbs. I've hired safe movers to move this twice with zero regrets. It is far more difficult to move a heavy safe than a grand piano....

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I'd not hesitate to hire safe movers for a large safe, but for a safe the size of a refrigerator, weighing 4-600 lbs, seriously consider an appliance dolly guys. I move mine around solo, and only need one helper if stairs are involved. Strap it to the dolly, tilt it over , and then it's just a balancing act and easy IMO. Might be one of the best hundred dollars I ever spent 20 years ago....safes, fridges, and my 180 lb speakers are easily done solo.

The appliance has rubber like treads on the back for sliding up/down steps too...can you tell that mine ain't for sale ?
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My safe is on the small size. Like a regular fridge. But I paid for extra armor. It's stupid heavy for its size.


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One more "hit" on the armpit that I ran across tonight on Quorum... pretty interesting story. Okay, I guess any good bouncer story is interesting.
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What is it like to be a trained martial artist and have an untrained person on the street want to fight you?
If they don't know you are a martial artist.

Martyn V. Halm, Former bouncer, trains in aikido and koryu bujutsu. Combat pragmatist.

Before I was a 'trained martial artist', I was a 'trained/experienced' street brawler and nightclub bouncer. Bouncers get challenged all the time, mostly by dickheads who want to prove their manhood.

I was on my break, standing outside drinking from a bottle, when an a**h*le (who I had confronted over cocaine use earlier) exited the club and noticed me. He and two of his friends walked up to me, so I lowered my bottle to my side. They stood in front of me in a semi-circle and the leader said, "I guess you don't feel so tough now."

"Unlike you," I said, "I don't need other people to prop up my ego."

That riled him into action. As he jabbed his finger at my chest, I buried the neck of the bottle in the armpit of his outstretched arm. He turned green, dropped to his knees and started vomiting, and his friends stepped away as I walked around them and went back into the club.

Brutal action, I know, but I don't really care about being gentle with loudmouth idiots who try to intimidate me to show off to their friends about their alpha male status.

Addendum: This proved to be one of my more popular answers, but it also generated some questions that can be found in the comments. I'm just answering some of the more salient points here:

Why did the guy puke? Was the bottle to the armpit really that painful?

The armpit has a cluster of nerve endings and some main arteries going through it. If you want to experiment, jab a finger into your own armpit.

I'll wait.

Did you do it? Hurts, right?

Now, imagine the neck of a beer bottle being rammed violently into that tender spot. The pain and shock is unbelievable, and can induce paralysis of the arm and vomiting from the pain.

Is the paralysis permanent or temporary?

Depends on the force of penetration and the object shoved into the armpit. If you ram stiff fingers in an armpit that's covered by a leather coat, the numbness in the arm may take 15-30 minutes to abate.

With regards to my situation, he was wearing a suit jacket and T-shirt (Miami Vice Sonny Crocket Wannabe) and I used a glass bottleneck, which accounts for the pain being so immense that it induced intense nausea and vomiting. His arm wouldn't regain full function for a few days and his armpit would most likely have been sore for a week or more.

This is a dangerous technique - especially if you ram the bottle in the left armpit, like I did - because the shock and pain can reach the heart and cause arrhythmia, from which a person could die (depending on age and general health, of course). If you'd do it on someone wearing only a T-shirt, a stiff thumb would have an immediate effect without running the risk of accidentally killing someone.

More: https://www.quora.com/What-is-it-like-to-be-a-trained-martial-artist-and-have-an-untrained-person-on-the-street-want-to-fight-you
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John, friend of mine played offensive line in college and would do the armpit punch on his opponent sometimes. It really discouraged them from trying to grab him.

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