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I've seen this with my own grandmother and I don't get it.  Its a way of thinking, not an issue with the phone.  They *think* it should be complicated to use so they try to make it complicated.  My dad has a rugby, and its a pain in the ass to use.  You have to scroll through crap, menus are clunky, takes forever to type a name into a contact, etc.  With an iPhone, or most smartphones now, you look for what you want to do, touch it, and do it.  EASY, as long as you don't freak out about it!
		 
		
	
		
	
			
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			I finally convinced my Father (he's 81) to get a mobile phone for emergencies. Went went with the most basic phone ATT had.  
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			Why? Despite countless hours of my time and many apple store visits he remains completely lost with his iPad. Last time we talked he said he wanted to throw the iPad against the wall out of frustration. Thankfully I talked him down and he's now holding the iPad until I can pick it up. Apple store never really helped either - they managed to delete his account and email, all his pictures, and have convinced him to purchase loads of peripherals (BT keyboard, screen protectors, cases, extra chargers, etc...) Grrrrr. Last edited by JavaBrewer; 12-17-2013 at 10:17 AM..  | 
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			I would think these smartphones would be marketed to the emerging market, i.e., not retirees.  For them, there's the jitterbug.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			My 80 year old father had a iPhone and iPad and used them with no issues. My MIL has both and loves her iPad. It is not just age, it is a mindset. My wife's grandmother refused to get a VCR because "she did not want anything that complex."
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			My mother is 78 years young, she has an iPad, iPhone ,Apple Tv, she knows how to stream media from her devices to her tv an sound system. She has built her own web page (using templates) blogs, downloads, uses photoshop... 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
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			Would now be a good time to sell my mint condition iPhone 4 - 32 Gig? It has been sitting in my closet for a year since I bought my 5. I really don't need the 4.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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