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dhoward 09-07-2012 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 6960322)
Natures Miracle.

Don't get the citrus scented, the regular is fine.

This.

Zeke 09-07-2012 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by widgeon13 (Post 6961274)
I have nothing to offer here that would be productive. I hate cats! :D

I have been reluctant to click on the thread but out of sheer boredom I did, what a mistake.

Then you have nothing to offer. I all but despise dogs. Slobbering non selective clowns of an animal. So, I refrain from commenting on dog related threads.

Hawkeye's-911T 09-07-2012 08:44 AM

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I think they're dumb animals who offer very little in return for everything they take.
Dogs have masters - Cats have staff

BlueSkyJaunte 09-07-2012 06:05 PM

My wife says:

1) Psych med might work...until they don't anymore.
2) Pheromone plug-ins are just another thing for the cat to pee o
3) Leave a couple of your wife's purses on the floor. When the cat pees in/on them, your wife will get the message.

Laneco 09-08-2012 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 6960059)

I really hate to see any so called "breeder" that purposely selects and breeds for an animal that is so physically deformed that it's life is a guarantee of misery. Persians are beautiful cats, but the move to the "ultra" persion with the deformed head/face is an act of cruelty. The head/facial structure of cats bred like that result in sinus deformites, abnormal tear ducts, impacted teeth, breathing problems, etc.

Persians also commonly have a genetic condition called polycystic kidney disease. It is a dominant gene that responsible breeders have worked very hard to weed out - but this was a rescue cat from a cattery for a reason - and that reason circulates around an IRRESPONSIBLE breeder. Lot of different estimates on how many Persian cats have this - anywhere from 30 to 40% by most counts. Life span varies, some die in a couple of weeks, but some last 5 or 6 years. Has this cat been checked for that - for PKD?

Every cat I've ever owned, and almost every dog, has been a rescue. So I do understand the desire to make another creatures life better. But if this cat showed up on my door step, I would seek a veterinarians opinion for the long term prognosis and medical costs of keeping this cat alive. I think you are looking at thousands of dollars in the next two years or so on a YOUNG cat. How many animals could you rescue/save with that much money? Quite a few - and with that decision I would euthanize this one, and go rescue/rehome several others.

Sorry...

angela

Drdogface 09-08-2012 07:26 AM

All this is a behavioral issue, likely not medical. Peeing in your lap top case is a sign that this cat does not like you, or is somehow perceiving a threat from you. It will be a very difficult issue to solve and cat pee is nearly impossible to get out of some things. Nature's Miracle is a good product, but if the cat pees on a wall (dry wall) it soaks in and sometimes you just have to cut that section our and repair it... A vet could try an injection of Depo Provera (long acting progesterone) and that might work...might not..

I've had many clients come to me over the years with this or similar problem... You will eventually get rid of this cat...somehow.

The eyes get crusty because the naso-lacrimal duct is clogged with mucus... You can treat it but it always comes back. All dogs and cats with the 'pushed in face' have that problem...

jgreen 09-10-2012 11:17 AM

Peeing cat turns into a nervous dog...
 
Some years ago we faced the same problem. We had two cats that we loved (my wife slightly more than I) and discovered that one was using everything but the litter box.
We knew it was the older of the two so I packed her up for a vist the Vet. I went alone as I had a premonition the results wouldn't be good and my wife wouldn't handle it very well.
As expected, the Vet, after a thorough examination, declared that nothing could be done other than putting her down. I chose right then and there to get it over with so I agreed and the Vet took the cat. He asked if I wanted to take a paw print or memento home with me but I declined. Going home without the cat was to be bad enough.
After many tears at home we agreed it was the best thing to do as living with a cat peeing everywhere was unacceptable.

Two days later I discovered it was the other cat! Couldn't go back to the same Vet and admit mistake so I went to a different one with same story. Now we have just a very nervous Retriever that refuses to go for a ride in the car with me.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1347304645.jpg

KFC911 09-10-2012 11:41 AM

Can't say as I blame herhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1347306083.jpg

scottmandue 09-10-2012 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Laneco (Post 6963266)
I really hate to see any so called "breeder" that purposely selects and breeds for an animal that is so physically deformed that it's life is a guarantee of misery. Persians are beautiful cats, but the move to the "ultra" persion with the deformed head/face is an act of cruelty. The head/facial structure of cats bred like that result in sinus deformites, abnormal tear ducts, impacted teeth, breathing problems, etc.

Persians also commonly have a genetic condition called polycystic kidney disease. It is a dominant gene that responsible breeders have worked very hard to weed out - but this was a rescue cat from a cattery for a reason - and that reason circulates around an IRRESPONSIBLE breeder. Lot of different estimates on how many Persian cats have this - anywhere from 30 to 40% by most counts. Life span varies, some die in a couple of weeks, but some last 5 or 6 years. Has this cat been checked for that - for PKD?

Every cat I've ever owned, and almost every dog, has been a rescue. So I do understand the desire to make another creatures life better. But if this cat showed up on my door step, I would seek a veterinarians opinion for the long term prognosis and medical costs of keeping this cat alive. I think you are looking at thousands of dollars in the next two years or so on a YOUNG cat. How many animals could you rescue/save with that much money? Quite a few - and with that decision I would euthanize this one, and go rescue/rehome several others.

Sorry...

angela

Sage advice... I get all my pets at the animal shelter... when I pick up a cat I take it out of the cage and examine their ears, eyes, and nose, then hold it's belly up to my ear to check it's lungs and heartbeat. Sometimes people look at me funny when I am going through all that but I think it is just stupid to take on the resposabilty of a pet without considering it's health issues you will have to deal with for years to come.

Our latest addition... the devils spawn I tell you!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1347307821.jpg

dienstuhr 09-10-2012 12:42 PM

Are you sure (SURE) that it's the new cat that's the pee-culprit?

Have you seen her marking outside the box?

Just saying that it could be one of the others that is stressed or upset about the new arrival.

Cheers and GL

d.

widebody911 09-10-2012 12:54 PM

We know which cat it is because we've witnessed it happening.

This is going to be difficult because the wife searched for quite a while for a Persian to rescue.

Personally, I'm not a fan of specialty breeds nor commercial breeders. There's someone at my work that always has puppies for sale - I just want to go over there and kick their ass.

spuggy 09-10-2012 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Laneco (Post 6963266)
Persians also commonly have a genetic condition called polycystic kidney disease. It is a dominant gene that responsible breeders have worked very hard to weed out - but this was a rescue cat from a cattery for a reason - and that reason circulates around an IRRESPONSIBLE breeder. Lot of different estimates on how many Persian cats have this - anywhere from 30 to 40% by most counts. Life span varies, some die in a couple of weeks, but some last 5 or 6 years. Has this cat been checked for that - for PKD?

Interesting, I'd never heard of that.

Took in a stray, who was starving. He was chipped, but no answer on the registered number. Sweet little guy, had him checked out, he badly needed dental work, and there was a marked improvement in all indicators, putting on weight etc.

A while (like 9 months or so) later, he starts peeing in inappropriate places, seems to have lost some weight (clear by now he's never going to be fat). Take him for an early annual checkup. Blood tests come back with CKF, sometimes called CKD (Chronic Kidney Failure/Disease).

Apparently, this just isn't detectable until more than 80% of kidney function is lost - and peeing in inappropriate places can be a symptom, like the cat's either trying to tell you something, or loses control/gets taken by surprise.

He hasn't peed anywhere he's not supposed to since he started getting fed the low-phosphorus diet that controls the irritant crystals forming in the urinary tract. 2 years seems young - but not exactly unknown, and if these cats can be genetically pre-disposed to kidney problems anyway, doesn't seem too much of a leap...

Mind you, that's not the only explanation. Someone I knew had a cat once that'd sneak into his closet and poop in a shoe if it was ticked at him... :)

teenerted1 09-10-2012 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 6960307)
While we're on the topic - how in the hell do I get the smell out of my laptop case?

Luckily my brand new laptop wasn't in the case at the time.

buy a new case.

motion 09-10-2012 03:34 PM

One of my neighbor's cats peed/sprayed on the genuine sheepskins in my 911 Cab several years ago. I tried to get the smell out for a couple years, and finally gave up. I think its impossible, especially if you live in a humid climate.

Drdogface 09-10-2012 03:40 PM

I think this is what you're gonna have to do...pitch that one and buy a new one... Cat pee is a real SOB to deal with..when it dries it leaves a kind of sticky/oily residue..if that penetrates cloth, leather, dry wall...anything porous you basically can't ever get it out... As I said in a previous post, I have had to cut out sections of dry wall where a cat sprayed and patch in a new one... PIA but who can stand to live with the smell...

john70t 09-10-2012 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by motion (Post 6967404)
One of my neighbor's cats peed/sprayed on the genuine sheepskins in my 911 Cab several years ago. I tried to get the smell out for a couple years, and finally gave up. I think its impossible, especially if you live in a humid climate.

I've got a small tool box which I bought at the San Jose flea market about 15 years ago. Someone puked in it. It's been washed and baked in the sun several times. Still smells like puke every time I open it.

motion 09-10-2012 03:59 PM

Have you ever seen what puke does to car paint? Nasty stuff!

Zeke 09-10-2012 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 6967111)
We know which cat it is because we've witnessed it happening.

This is going to be difficult because the wife searched for quite a while for a Persian to rescue.

Personally, I'm not a fan of specialty breeds nor commercial breeders. There's someone at my work that always has puppies for sale - I just want to go over there and kick their ass.

I too searched for awhile to adopt a Persian. They are hard to find as adoptions. Then I encountered the stuck up attitude of the adoption people. "We'll come out and investigate whether your environment is suitable."

This is for all cats, not just some. Meanwhile 1000's are executed. These people have to learn that in the city (verified by DL) if you're some kind of sadistic or abusive type, or you have too many animals, your neighbors will likely turn you in.

I walked out on them w/o a cat of any kind. 2wice. It's actually much easier to buy one that has had shots, etc.

Halm 09-10-2012 04:33 PM

Let me make my case again, and from personal experience with a peeing cat. If you are sure it has infected teeth that need to be extracted, either have them pulled or put the cat down. It is in pain and either option is the humane thing to do.

widebody911 09-10-2012 06:28 PM

I'm not sure it's a biological issue, since she pees in the exact same spots, laptop case notwithstanding.


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