Remember those protesters that got pepper sprayed? - Page 5

weseeeee · weseeeee's Garage

Peter, I agree completely.

daepp · 10-25-2013, 06:59 AM

The real crime is that a run of the mill cop on a very safe UC campus gets paid $122,000 a year. And he's not even a captain or a chief.

daepp · 10-25-2013, 07:04 AM

Btw - they were protesting the high cost of tuition and the high salaries in the administration. I wonder how much those settlements cost the taxpayers or the students. UC used to be free to CA residents.

The administration told the cops to get them out by 3:00pm. The administratio had some conference starting around then. Can u imagine a worse time of day to to do this on a college campus?

intakexhaust · intakexhaust's Garage

Who determines and how do they arrive to a $30K each settlement? Where's the money come from to pay them... taken from the city coffers, police pension fund, liability re-insurance?

Anyhow, the bottom line is 'we the people' are the ones paying the victims. Can't we all just get along? NOW GET OFF MY LAWN!

nostatic · nostatic's Garage

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Originally Posted by look 171

I agree. They knew damn well their protest will yield fruitless result (yeah, the University or state will stop fee hikes right-a-way due to a bunch of little cry babies sitting on their lawn), what were they thinking? Move away and go home. what did their protest accomplished besides their personal gain of 30k. The IRS get any of that money? I assume not?

It started off with local press attention so their voice was amplified. It turned into international press because of a stupid cop.

Most protest is fruitless or effective depending on your metrics. Sometimes little things can make a big difference. If you believe in something, you should speak up. If you remain silent, then nothing will change.

look 171 · 10-25-2013, 08:41 AM

Todd,

You are absolutely correct about that. People need to pick their battles wisely but many young people lack the experience and emotions get the better part of them. What were they protesting about anyway? Cooperations making too much money and university fee hikes? That's like protesting Porsche charging too much money for their cars because they also want one but can't due to their income. No one's making them go there. Education is not free.

10-25-2013, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by daepp

The real crime is that a run of the mill cop on a very safe UC campus gets paid $122,000 a year. And he's not even a captain or a chief.

No kidding. Pretty good coin for responding to panty raids.

Terry

look 171 · 10-25-2013, 09:56 AM

that's close to what professors make?

RWebb · RWebb's Garage

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Originally Posted by intakexhaust

Who determines and how do they arrive to a $30K each settlement? Where's the money come from to pay them... taken from the city coffers, police pension fund, liability re-insurance?

Anyhow, the bottom line is 'we the people' are the ones paying the victims. Can't we all just get along? NOW GET OFF MY LAWN!

the jury (mostly, some input from the judge and from state statutes, i.e. legislature)

often a 'harm' component which is small and then a punitive component, which is often larger

the irony is that the bad overpaid cop does not have to pay, and I agree with daepp & hugh; you are right, the effing taxpayers get stuck (usually the city general fund; here, the UC equivalent unless they have insurance for idiot cop follies)

we have police abuse cases out the wazoo here (yeh, they are unionized) - the problem is that you need cops; and these type of things harm the needed cooperative relations between the citizens and the police

Jim Richards · 10-25-2013, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by daepp

The real crime is that a run of the mill cop on a very safe UC campus gets paid $122,000 a year. And he's not even a captain or a chief.

You've got to sh___en me!

trekkor · 10-25-2013, 01:04 PM

Noooooooo!!!!

KT

aigel · aigel's Garage

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Originally Posted by look 171

that's close to what professors make?

Not easy to make 120k as a professor at UC, IMHO. I'd say if a basic cop makes 120k on campus, they make more than a basic professor (i.e. asssistant / associate). You have to be a full professor with some years under your belt to even get to 120k.

Academic Salary Scales | UCOP

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look 171 · 10-26-2013, 07:43 AM

When I got out of school in 1991, my professor was making about 75k. assuming many are tenured, they must make over 100k by now? Its crazy to think the amount of education they had to go through only to find out a dumb campus cop makes more money with absolutely no college education.

Jim Richards · 10-26-2013, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by look 171

When I got out of school in 1991, my professor was making about 75k. assuming many are tenured, they must make over 100k by now? Its crazy to think the amount of education they had to go through only to find out a dumb campus cop makes more money with absolutely no college education.

Well, the campus police do have mad pepper spray skilz.

jamesnmlaw · 10-26-2013, 10:22 AM

Maybe the policeman was just out testing his pepper gun and these poor idiots got in the way? I used to do that when I was a kid: "I'm going to walk across the room spinning my arms and if you happen to be in the way it is not my fault."

These people didn't get out of the way.

10-26-2013, 10:27 AM

[QUOTE ] Its crazy to think the amount of education they had to go through only to find out a dumb campus cop makes more money with absolutely no college education.[/QUOTE]

Hey, he might have been a highly educated, but laid off, Romney campaign worker.

Terry

flatbutt · 10-26-2013, 11:47 AM

What difference does their cause make? It was a peaceful assembly that they had a right to make.

Oh and Sammy...It seems to me you'd be happier in someplace with a system like China or the former Soviet Union.

look 171 · 10-26-2013, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by flatbutt

What difference does their cause make? It was a peaceful assembly that they had a right to make.

Oh and Sammy...It seems to me you'd be happier in someplace with a system like China or the former Soviet Union.

they were ask to not camp there, instead of leaving, they decided to camp out anyway and refuse to leave.

speeder · speeder's Garage

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Quote de flatbutt

What difference does their cause make? It was a peaceful assembly that they had a right to make.

Oh and Sammy...It seems to me you'd be happier in someplace with a system like China or the former Soviet Union.

they were ask to not camp there, instead of leaving, they decided to camp out anyway and refuse to leave.

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So what?? Does not excuse police response in any way. They were sitting on a fking sidewalk. No offense intended, but are you from a more oppressive place than the U.S.?

flatbutt · 10-26-2013, 03:55 PM

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So what?? Does not excuse police response in any way. They were sitting on a fking sidewalk. No offense intended, but are you from a more oppressive place than the U.S.?

None taken . I may not have made myself clear. I think the police response was way out of line.