Shopping for a new spoon, FFL questions

[GWN7]

So I'm looking for a new spoon. I'd like to try a .270. I borrowed one many many years ago when I started hunting and I liked the feel of the gun. So I'm shopping and the local penny rag that you could find used guns in is out of business when a buddy mentions Gunbroker.com.

So I go online and find almost 300 listings for a .270 bolt except every ad says it has to be shipped to a local FFL holder.

Do all guns in the USA have to go thru this routine now?


I check into this further and find any gun that is being exported has to go thru a exporters hands (Read start at $500 + for their fees) and paperwork has to go to the State Dept. I guess so that they would know if I was planning a revolt of the government up here without CIA approval.

The fees added to the cost of the gun are way too expensive for shooting bambi in the face this year. So it's back to using my .30-06 for this task.

[id10t]

Yes, anything interstate has Fed requirements unless that actual spoon was made prior to 1899 - not the model, but that actual one.

A 270 is just a slightly necked down 30-06, shooting lighter but slightly longer bullets which on paper gives it a slight advantage at longer range.

If you aren't happy with the feel of your '06 in your hands or at your shoulder, then consider a different stock - But even those face export/import restrictions - see what is happening with teh boyds "tacticool" stock series for the Savage Mk II/93.

If a new spoon really is the answer for you, then either be prepared to go thru the export/import hassles or shop a Canada friendly manufacturer like Savage (some of their stuff is made in Canada).

[on2wheels52]

Is FFL a term they use in Canada?
I handle Gunbroker deals almost daily but I expect most (all?) of them begin and end in the US.
Should you move to Arkansas I could be of some assistance (and give a PP discount).
Jim

[Joeaksa]

Go to a local gunshow (if they have them in Canada) and take a look in person. Here in America if its a private sale, there is no paperwork and no hassle or waiting time.

The .270 is a good round, but then so is the 7mm. Lots of great calibers out there, so just figure out what you are shooting at and go from there.

[GWN7]

Originally Posted by on2wheels52

Is FFL a term they use in Canada?
I handle Gunbroker deals almost daily but I expect most (all?) of them begin and end in the US.
Should you move to Arkansas I could be of some assistance (and give a PP discount).
Jim

No we don't use the term FFL. All our licences are federal. We have PL & PAL for Possession Licence and Possession & Acquisition Licence. They cover non-restricted firearms (long guns). You need a PL to own rifles and buy ammo for them. You don't need one to buy primers, cases, powder or bullets. So you can load all the ammo you want without one. Then there is a restricted fireams licence (hand guns) and a prohibited licence (almost impossible to get now) for collectors. Most are grandfathered only. CCW's are very few and far between. Most CCW's are work related and are actually open carried weapons (CW).

[GWN7]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

Go to a local gunshow (if they have them in Canada) and take a look in person. Here in America if its a private sale, there is no paperwork and no hassle or waiting time.

The .270 is a good round, but then so is the 7mm. Lots of great calibers out there, so just figure out what you are shooting at and go from there.

I have never seen a gun show here. We don't have them (in my area). I'm shooting whitetail on the wide open prairies. Wind rows spaced 1/4 to 1/2 mile apart. Deer bed down in the wind rows in the daytime. Shooting out to 600 yds. Using 150 Gr. Nosler Ballistic Tip and powder I'm getting out there at about 2800fps. I'm 0 @ 300 yds and drops -12" at about 400yds, That's about -30" @ 500yds

id10t - Thanks for the info the .270 is a .30 round. I wasn't sure. (green)

[matt711]

The .270 is a very good round for long range hunting. It has a very flat trajectory. Only downside is that it requires a long action which can result in a heavier rifle. Ammo (at least here in the USA) is common and easy to come by. If long range isnt a factor you might want to look at a .243. Short action and good balistics. The .243 does not need a long barrel to be accurate. The .270 like a fairly long barrel to burn up all the powder in that big 30-06 case.

-Matt

[Jrboulder]

Originally Posted by matt711

The .270 is a very good round for long range hunting. It has a very flat trajectory. Only downside is that it requires a long action which can result in a heavier rifle. Ammo (at least here in the USA) is common and easy to come by. If long range isnt a factor you might want to look at a .243. Short action and good balistics. The .243 does not need a long barrel to be accurate. The .270 like a fairly long barrel to burn up all the powder in that big 30-06 case.

-Matt

+1 on the .243

[vash]

jack o'connor put alot of animals down with a .270..great caliber. not as "white bread" as a 30.06..which is a good thing.

[matt711]

I'm a big fan of the .270, in my opionion one of the top 5 hunting rounds for NA. If I'm shooting from a stand and not doing a lot of walking the .270 is my go to rifle for white tail. If I am walking then it's a light (Tika T3) in .243. Very light recoil and will drop any deer sized game with correct shot placement.

Look at Savage or Tika. Both are inexpensive and accurate. Spend your money on optics. I have sold more rifles than I can remember but I rarely sell a top quality scope.

-Matt

[Joeaksa]

Make sure that the caliber is what you are going to be needing.

A .243 or .270 works fine over open ground but if you might have to shoot through any brush or forest areas, the lighter bullets are deflected easier than something like a 30.06.

[GWN7]

I've got a line on a Sako A7 with a Burris 3X9 scope. Won in a raffle. Never been fired. Going to look at it tomorrow. The only bad thing I've heard about them is the recoil pad is a tad hard.

[matt711]

The Sako is a fine rifle. Very well made machine. The Burris will depend on what model but I doubt anyone would spend what the Sako costs only to put a cheap optic on top. Good luck.

[Bill Douglas]

How do you say it in English... Sako good, very good. Burris shi*, umm, not so good.