Trick-Or-Treaters With No Shame

onewhippedpuppy · 11-01-2012, 12:21 PM

For the last few years our group of friends have gotten together at the same house on Halloween to take the kids trick-or-treating. Their neighborhood is an older upper middle class area that blocks off some streets for Halloween, as well as many houses that take their decorations very seriously. It's much better than my small neighborhood full of mean old people, and the kids enjoy trick or treating together. But I've made some very interesting observations about those who travel to the neighborhood by the car-full from other less desirable areas of town. They either park in the middle of the active streets or drive from house to house instead of walking, creating a risk to the many walking kids. They are loud and rude, I heard multiple people yelling f-bombs at each other and lots of yelling in spanish. Most interesting of all - they ALL carry candy bags.

Not just lots of kids, but every damn teenager and adult has a candy bag (or three). Infant in the stroller? Of course they need candy! Grandma with the grandkids? She's got a bag too! I try really hard to avoid stereotyping, and I can't blame them for not wanting to trick or treat in the ghetto. But why in the hell do they have to be so rude? I've been married with kids and poor as hell, but I NEVER walked around with my own bag on Halloween. \End rant.

GH85Carrera · GH85Carrera's Garage

That is one reason we just shut off the lights and don't participate in handing out candy.

Neilk · 11-01-2012, 01:24 PM

I heard that some neighborhoods do Halloween on the last Saturday of the month and close up shop on the 31st. We get over a 1,000 kids in our neighborhood that are all bussed in.

It's really weird when you have some teens carrying a two year old and you aren't sure whether to say "here's one for your sister or daughter".

Some people you just want to drop kick when they just show up expecting you to give them something. It's nice though when you get a family with young kids and you see that the parents are appreciative and thank you, too rare though.

Gogar · 11-01-2012, 01:26 PM

I just repay them buy dumping all the dead bodies in their neighborhood.

craigster59 · craigster59's Garage

The young kids always get candy. I think I'm going to start collecting all the hotel / motel toiletries throughout the year and hand them out to the older folks.

VaSteve · 11-01-2012, 01:33 PM

I give out campaign stickers. I have two stacks.

sammyg2 · 11-01-2012, 01:40 PM

We get carpet-baggers in our neighborhood too.
We buy two large bags of candy and hand it out until it's gone, I really don't care who gets it as long as it goes away.
As soon as the candy is gone, the porch light goes off

Esel Mann · 11-01-2012, 02:10 PM

Might be time to find a new neighborhood for trick or treating?

I have seen adults escort the little ones around. I even did so for my nieces when they were little ones. But for the adult to have their own candy bag and participate in candy reception??? A new lower level of the bar has now been established in how low will one stoop for a free hand-out???

mossguy · 11-01-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

That is one reason we just shut off the lights and don't participate in handing out candy.

I do the same thing and work in my windowless shop while the extortionists-in-training are making the rounds.

onewhippedpuppy · 11-01-2012, 03:53 PM

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Might be time to find a new neighborhood for trick or treating?

I have seen adults escort the little ones around. I even did so for my nieces when they were little ones. But for the adult to have their own candy bag and participate in candy reception??? A new lower level of the bar has now been established in how low will one stoop for a free hand-out???

From what I'm told most of the nicer neighborhoods have the same problem. When we lived in a less than nice area we had teens knocking on the door at 10 pm without a costume. Nice....

Schrup · Schrup's Garage

At least they didn't rob you.

Police arrest teens after Tacoma trick-or-treaters robbed

Esel Mann · 11-01-2012, 04:19 PM

Caravans for candy is quite passive when compared to Cabbage Night. That term (and all that it entailed) that used to put the fear in everyone.....

Nostril Cheese · 11-01-2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2

We get carpet-baggers in our neighborhood too.
We buy two large bags of candy and hand it out until it's gone, I really don't care who gets it as long as it goes away.
As soon as the candy is gone, the porch light goes off

Im surprised you dont shoot the children.

LeeH · 11-01-2012, 06:49 PM

We go trick or treating in a friend's neighborhood. It's like a big block party there. Our street is small with very few kids. Typically a total of 20 or so individual children come by according to our neighbors.

We always put out a bowl of candy with a sign, "Please take one or two." Last night someone took the entire bowl. Not just all of the candy, but the bowl we put it in. Oh well. We'll save a few bucks next year by not putting out anything.

look 171 · 11-01-2012, 09:15 PM

Matt, I am shocked that's happening out in the middle of the country. I thought these types of low lifes only exist in LA. We have a ton of kids around, I say more then 60 % of them are from elsewhere. Most are nice and respectable folks. Good for those who want better things in life has decided to come to a better, cleaner, crime free place for their kids and that's ok with most of us. But as they say, you can get out of the ghetto but you can't get the ghetto out of you. We are in a very narrow street where only one car can pass. Some of these same people you mentioned, double park and wait for their kids blocking everyone. They do this from house to house. Kids getting in and out of the car. To top it off, they have the thumping dance, hip fooking hop music blasting away screaming F'ing this and that. One mom yells,"you little btich, hurry up and get in the car". Now I know why people want to put up road block in these rich neighborhoods.

One things that worries me on days like these. The bad guys can scope out your house, if they feel that if its nice inside and they will come back and clean house on a later day. Yes, I stereotype. Yes, not all poor people are thieves, but I am just not comfortable having them around looking into my home with my little kids in there. Now get off my lawn and my street.

Jrboulder · 11-01-2012, 09:50 PM

I was away last night but I bought a mixed bag of kitkats and reeces and put it in a bowl outside. I don't think anyone took *any* of it. This being Arizona, maybe they were expecting those little boxes of .22LR?

HardDrive · 11-01-2012, 09:56 PM

I don't mind poor folks asking me for candy. I doubt Jesus would either.

craigster59 · craigster59's Garage

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Originally Posted by HardDrive

I don't mind poor folks asking me for candy. I doubt Jesus would either.

I think that's his problem. Too many Jesus's coming to the door....

onewhippedpuppy · 11-02-2012, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by look 171

Matt, I am shocked that's happening out in the middle of the country. I thought these types of low lifes only exist in LA.

Wichita is big enough to have problems, the metro area is 600k-ish people.

rsNINESOOPER · 11-02-2012, 10:11 AM

Halloween in Oakland is horrible for all the reasons onewhippedpuppy mentions and more. It is mind blowing how awful the parents are and the way it reflects on the kids behavior.

On Halloween we leave the lights off and I block my front steps off with a couple of 2x4s that I screw to the structure of the stairs making it obvious that we do not want people on the stairs and on the porch. I screw them down because kids and parents will just throw them off to the side to come up the dark stairs to a dark front entrance. Although I screw them down kids and parents alike still climb over the thigh high barriers to get to the door. Our neighborhood gets a lot of the folks from other neighborhoods where common sense and respect are non existent. In a few cases I have had to go to the door to ask people to stop banging on my front door and get off the steps. One such case I witnessed from the beginning and heard the parents telling their litter of children "Fuch it, just climb over that schit" so the 7 kids did (they ranged 5yrs to 13 or so). As they made their way over the barriers, up the steps, and began slamming their hands into the door and plate glass windows of my 1920's era house I went to the door and then opened it and glared down at their parents who were standing at the bottom of the steps. They returned the nasty looks. I addressed the kids at the door and asked them whether they noticed that there was a barrier blocking the stairs and they said "NO". I asked them to please get off the stairs and let them know I had no candy. One of the older kids told me to "Fuch off!!". I told the kid to watch his mouth and get the hell off my porch which triggered a response from one of the parents who shouted at me to not talk to their kids that way and began walking up my stairs.
At this point I was livid and snapped- At that moment my mouth opened and I said,
"If you take one more step up to my porch I will ******* show your kids what discipline looks like in its extreme form due to your threatening and disrespectful presence when I remove you from my property" after further exchanges I let them all know (the parents) that they were not welcome in the neighborhood and that the police would be on the way adding that their kids would be better off spending the night with adults that could show them how to behave, show respect and have a good time. I felt bad for loosing my cool but strangely felt it was for the best. My good friend who also happens to be an Oakland cop had one of his buddies swing over and clear them out of the neighborhood- hope a lesson was learned. I will also add that being white makes me a minority among our closely knit mixed bag neighborhood.

No hassles this year in Irvine...... nothing but polite kids and parents.