Hey kaisen have a question for you
 

Can you tell me what a 2010 4runner Limited with 26000 miles is worth wholesale or market value? I found one but not sure if I really want to pull the trigger. If its something you can't do, due to some business issue, please tell me. I will understand.

I think I have narrowed it to a Rav4 but really want a 4runer. This will be my daily driver when I am not driving my big old Dodge diesel. the Rav4 I want is the v6 awd and it gets better mileage then the 4 runner. Th\anks

jeff

Jeff, just a vote of confidence for the 4rd gen 4Runner, we bought a 2003 V6 Sport 4x4 brand new and sold it to Paul (Seahawk) at around 70k because we needed more room for the growing family. Paul is at nearly 190k and using it for a daily driver, he reports that it has been essentially flawless. They are fantastic trucks.

My dad has a 2006 he bought new and now has 151k on it and besides the routine maintenance I help him with, not a single repair or breakdown ever. Amazing cars that still rides like new today.

My 2004 4Runner has 124K miles on it and not a squeak or a rattle to be found. Interior and exterior still in great condition.

Just look it up on NADA dot com. Those are what are known as "book vehicles", IOW they bring what the book says retail/wholesale. Just make sure to correctly enter the miles/model/equipment.

Yup. 188k and climbing, still as solid as picking the 49'ers to win the Super Bowl:)

I picked my partner up at BWI yesterday for a meeting in Columbia, Maryland and he kept commenting on the relatively high miles and the fact that the thing doesn't rattle or squeak, quiet and powerful.

I'll be in this thing for a lot longer.

The more important question is: How do you go from a Dodge diesel truck to a (Grandma) Rav4? I mean, I can see a 4-Runner, but you'd have to have blue hair and a walker to get into a Rav4.

Rusnak,
Not picking a fight with you but my 2006 v6, Rav 4 is faster than my Pcar. Pulled a 3500 lb boat package 600 miles over the Appalachian mnts in the passing lane. Not a Gma car. My wife drives it though ;).

Sorry Man, I was just having a laugh. I think I annoyed Dr. Webb with my "Lezbaru" joke a while back.

Having lived in the PNW, I can tell you that's no joke, rusnak.

If a Subaru and a Rav4 got together and had a baby, you'd have something that was....just faaaabulous, oh my Gawd!


Sorry, I'll stop now

Hey man, I own an Outback. I do have to say it's not a bad car. But if I ever buy a Prius, I'm giving all of you here permission to kick me right in the nads, because they won't be of use to me anyway.

I have no freaking teeth and wear diaper daily. What are you talking about? Don't forget about my manly Land Cruisers. Its only a car, I need something beside the my wife's van to truck the kids around. Rav4 works.

I know they are good cars and have had a toyota since I started driving. I just want to see if the price is right because i have net really shopped around. Maybe you guys can tell me if that's a good deal or not. 2010 limited for 31000 bucks, 26000 miles on it. The seller is an engineer at toyota head quarters here.

Sorry, I've been slammed busy lately and haven't been on Pelican

A 2WD would bring $29ish and a 4WD would be $31ish with those miles
So it's a good deal for a 4Runner

Whether it's a good value is a completely different story. For example, a 2010 Mercedes ML350 or 2010 Lexus RX350 with 26K miles would be about the same price. Or a 2010 Nissan Pathfinder LE with 26K miles is several thousand less. Or a 2012 new-body Ford Explorer similarly equipped with 26K miles would be a bit less. There's not a single similar SUV that brings as much money as a 4Runner. Not even close. Heck, a 2010 Porsche Cayenne V6 with 26K miles can be had for $31K.

if you don't think its a bad deal , then I go and have a look. Everyone thinks what ever they are selling is always worth top money and are competing with dealer pricing. I looked through the net a little, but lots of the cars for sale are dealer ads so I do not have too many private party ads to compare to. Thanks a bunch.

Oh, the 32ish is a wholesale price?

$29K for 2WD and $31K for 4WD is wholesale for a 2010 4Runner Limited, yes.
What they've actually sold for at wholesale dealer-only auction, not any book.

$31K for a Toyota Engineer's low-mile 2010 4Runner Limited is a good deal if you're convinced you need a low-mile 2010 4Runner Limited.

There's no way in h-e-double-hockeysticks I'd ever pay that for one. But that's what they bring.

I have looked for 2010s and all of them are about 28-30k with more miles. I want a 4WD. Milage to me isn't a big concern for me with these cars. I like the 60-70k ones because the value drops like a stone. The older ones are a little small for us. Any thoughts?

Again, if you've decided you're buying a three year old 4Runner Limited, and the one with 26K miles is a 4WD for $31K, you can't go wrong. That's a good deal.

Thanks again for your advice.

Interesting to know the premiums on 4Runners haven't gone away.

In 2005 we were shopping for an SUV that would be my winter car and eventually my sister's dd. I really wanted to get a 4Runner. We found one we liked, 2001 with 65k miles, selling for $19.5k. It was above the budget so I had to look at other makes/models.

We enes up getting a 2001 Nissan Xterra equipped basically the same as the 4Runner with 51k miles for $12.5k. I thinks it just about impossible to justify the premium that the Toyota brings.

$31k......damn. While I love the 4Runner and think it's the best midsized SUV you can buy, that's a lot of money for a 2010. When buying a car that can go 200k pretty easily, does it make sense to pay a premium for low mileage? Just for fun I built a new Trail model on the Toyota website that added up to just a bit over $39k MSRP.

Possibly - although if you've owned a 2001 Toyota PU truck for 8 years and have replaced a battery, PS hose and brakes/tires (like me) it might make sense. :D

I really want a Trail and pretty much don't care for the lux. models. This one came up so I am thinking about it.

What are the new ones actually selling for? When we were Tundra shopping last year they knocked a $38k MSRP truck down to $33k without me even trying to negotiate. Seems like getting a new one for a few thousand more than a used one would be worthwhile if possible.

Matt,

The last time I looked, they are close to 40. I really like to pay no more then 25-27000 for a use one, but not too many are available. the new body style is a bit larger then the old, so that works for us. Peraonally, I think they are jpretty ugly.

Looks like lots of SR5 options under $30k. Here's one Trail model in NV: http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2014&zip=67226&driveC odes=4WD|AWD&sellerTypes=b&maxPrice=30000&mmt=[TOYOTA[4RUN[]][]]&modelCode1=4RUN&driveCode=4WD|AWD&showcaseOwnerId =67947&makeCode1=TOYOTA&startYear=2010&maxMileage= 30000&searchRadius=0&minPrice=1&listingId=33845779 8&listingIndex=22&Log=0

SR5 that's local to you: 2011 Toyota 4Runner 4WD SR5

Another local SR5: WoW Reduced!! 2010 Toyota 4Runner V6 SR5

Here's what they bring here in snow country:

2010 4Runner SR5 4x4 Leather with 74,600 miles
Non-negotiating store, so the price is the price: $26,998
Used 2010 Toyota 4runner SR5 V6 4WD LTHR MR For Sale in Greater Minneapolis & Bloomington, MN JTEBU5JR8A5006877

And here's what $30K buys in SoCal:

2010 Porsche Cayenne V6 4x4 Leather with 70,800 miles
And they negotiate from their starting price: $29,998
2010 Porsche Cayenne BASE - Thousand Oaks California area Porsche dealer near Thousand Oaks California

I can offer this 2009 Porsche Cayenne V6 4x4 with 72,300 miles, Xenon HID, Navigation, etc.....

For $24,900 F.O.B. East Coast

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I seriously can't get my head around 4Runner pricing. There's no rhyme or reason why they bring that much.....

I understand the point you are tying to convey, but damn the base model Cayenne looks goofy. One size too small wheels and a V6, blah. At least the V8 and Turbo are fast.

wow, thanks for the links guys. I am terrible at looking up stuff or shopping on the net.

while I am a big Porsche guy, but I am not sure bout the Cayenne I don't care how fast they are. I need something trouble free.

Okay, how about this:

2010 Ford Explorer XLT V6 4x4
17,200 miles
Powertrain warranty for 2.2 years and 33K miles remaining
Well equipped: Power seats, SYNC, moonroof, third row seats, trailer tow, etc
Ford factory owned, no previous damage/paintwork
My Pelican price: $23,900 F.O.B. East Coast
Again, how a 4Runner is $10K more with similar miles and equipment is lost on me
Even if the 4Runner will never ever break because it's a Toyota, I can fix a lot of crap for $10K.....

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Look 171, look at what Kaisen posted. A 4runner is similar price at a same year Cayenne. If we see you in a 4runner, I bet you that some of us will get down and beat you up :D

Same size wheels as a 4Runner. But an eBay click away from whatever Porsche wheels your heart desires, up to 23" factory

4Runner is also V6, although the Porsche makes more 20 more horsepower (yet weighs the same), has a more sophisticated all wheel drive system, independent rear supension (vs Toy's live axle) and a 6 speed automatic (vs 5spd Toy)

A Cayenne V6 will trounce a V6 4Runner in any performance measure and equal it in off-road capabilities.

By 2010 the V6 Cayenne was pretty well sorted, not having all the issues that the V8 and Turbo models had, nor the fancy gizmos that cost a fortune to fix.

If that's the measurement, buy the Explorer

I like the new Explorer, but I'd take my old 2003 4Runner over that generation. That's a good reminder of just how much Ford has improved their products in the last couple of years.

If you get a Cayenne, you gotta go for the S model. If nothing else just because they sound really nice. For some reason the S model with the V8 seems like less of a poser mobile, the V6 model always strikes me as the Touareg with the Porsche badge.

Dangit, now I am confused

You've got to be kidding me

So if a V6 Touareg is a good vehicle, then the V6 Cayenne is not?

Who cares if you could have bought a more powerful better sounding version and spent several thousand more for it. If you're looking at other V6 CUV/SUVs, then consider a V6 Cayenne. It doesn't need to be more complicated. Anything else is pure snobbery.