Calling the Docs: medical/murder questions

[WolfeMacleod]

After watching a couple movies tonight on LifeTime about crazy, psycho killer women, the GF and I got into a short discussion about Murder.
One of the women in the last movies replaced Insulin with Vodka... perhaps the intent wasn't to kill outright, as much as make her very drunk while driving in order to cause an accident.
I know that alcohol straight into the bloodstream WILL kill you.
How much alcohol would it take?

I mentioned that another alcohol method (and perhaps one of my favorites) would be by vaporization, say with one of those old school vaporizers our mom's used to make us hover over when we were sick kids... inhaling vaporized alcohol? Straight into the stream via the lungs...

She's a non-believer in that method.

Again, how much alcohol vapor would be needed?


Yet again, another favorite method is scrapings from a Teflon pan loaded into a cigarette. Phosgene gas, anyone?
Yes, a Cig cherry burns plenty hot enough during the draw.
I found some studies by Dupont where they did studies in the 50's ... .4milligrams loaded smokes was enough to cause "Polymer Fume Fever"

Wondering, how much would it take?


She's a complete disbeliever....



Got any favorite methods for killin' someone?

[Bill Douglas]

Still having problems with that GF and her son?

[WolfeMacleod]

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

Still having problems with that GF and her son?

AHhaha, no.. noting that serious.

[HiBeam]

Sir, you seemingly don't have enough of a sense of self-care to know when you're embarrassing yourself. And you apparently learned nothing about same from your recent epic thread. Pitiful.

[WolfeMacleod]

Originally Posted by HiBeam

Sir, you seemingly don't have enough of a sense of self-care to know when you're embarrassing yourself. And you apparently learned nothing about same from your recent epic thread. Pitiful.

It's a good thing I don't give a removed - ns what you think.

I'll be expecting a visit to BanIsland for a while for that.

I didn't post to get responded to rudely.

[ForBell]

ya never knows what yer gonna git when ya's post on the olde world wide web.

[pwd72s]

I mean, it's not like Wolfe sold his Porsche & bought a Mustang.

[WolfeMacleod]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

I mean, it's not like Wolfe sold his Porsche & bought a Mustang.

I also think it's funny that the Good Doctor there doesn't bother to chime in, except to insult. Apparently he doesn't realize the questions had nothing to do with her, except the discussion we had on the method in the movie.

[dewolf]

Kind of like shoving a tube up yer a$$ and filling it with alcohol. Not filtered through the liver or kidneys as can kill apparantly. Saw it on a show here where kids in the U.S where doing it to avoid smelling like booze.

[WolfeMacleod]

Originally Posted by dewolf

Kind of like shoving a tube up yer a$$ and filling it with alcohol. Not filtered through the liver or kidneys as can kill apparantly. Saw it on a show here where kids in the U.S where doing it to avoid smelling like booze.

Yep. Butt-Chugging they call it. Gross. The bypassing everything is part of what I tried to explain.

[Nostril Cheese]

Wolfe, I really need to get up to Seattle and jam with you sometime. You and I will get along just fine, my man.

[WolfeMacleod]

Originally Posted by Nostril Cheese

Wolfe, I really need to get up to Seattle and jam with you sometime. You and I will get along just fine, my man.

Any time. Always welcome to stop by.

[genrex]

Even though the question seems intellectual, it also seems like you're asking how to commit murder. All this talk about death and dying. I just finished reading an old thread from when Marc (Drago) died from diabetic ketosis in 2009. Can we talk about something else?

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[WolfeMacleod]

Originally Posted by genrex

Even though the question seems intellectual, it also seems like you're asking how to commit murder. All this talk about death and dying. I just finished reading an old thread from when Marc (Drago) died from diabetic ketosis in 2009. Can we talk about something else?

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I remember
I've had plenty of death lately. Lost my mom on the 15th, and the Mentor is still on his way out.

[Nostril Cheese]

My father died in November, lost a friend over the holidays and Otto died on Friday.

Yet all three of them would have a laugh at Wolfe's idea.

[WolfeMacleod]

Originally Posted by Nostril Cheese

My father died in November, lost a friend over the holidays and Otto died on Friday.

Yet all three of them would have a laugh at Wolfe's idea.

Oh no, no bright ideas here.

But, here's a good laugh... I'm not sure if you saw this thread about my Mentor or not...
The old man is still kicking. He's getting ready to go to his last Sci-Fi convention this weekend, to sell his bladed weapons. They've decked out his wheelchair, since he'll be needing it.
On the back of his wheelchair will be a faux headstone, with a symbol similar to a three-pronged throwing star. Around it, in Latin, in the phrase "Because I need the money" of something like that.
He's got a very good sense of humor about himself dying. A priest friend of his recently joked with him that God would not let him into Heaven... because he doesn't want his Angels pregnant!

Very sorry to hear about your father and others.

[Nostril Cheese]

I did read up about him. Seems quite the character.

[svandamme]

I'm calling BS on the Teflon burning with Phosgene byproduct.
Phosgene cannot exist above 200 C, above those temps it breaks down again into Monoxide and Chlorine. that's why Phosgene production requires cooling (the production is exothermic).

[WolfeMacleod]

Originally Posted by svandamme

I'm calling BS on the Teflon burning with Phosgene byproduct.
Phosgene cannot exist above 200 C, above those temps it breaks down again into Monoxide and Chlorine. that's why Phosgene production requires cooling (the production is exothermic).

I can't comments specifically on Phosgenes break-down, but there's Some good reading here about Teflon offgassing when it's get pretty hot.

I will say that I'm not quite sure what "fluorine analog" refers to when Phosgene is mentioned in the second paragraph.
A chemist, I am not.

[svandamme]

Well it's a different chemical, related, not the same