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HBR: Why the Apple Watch Is a Gift to the Swiss Watch Industry
I thought this was an insightful view of the probable long-run impact of smartwatches - just as Kindles and Swatch watches had a positive effect on their traditional industries.
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I could see my 1 y/o grandson wearing my Submariner some day. Once in a great while, I will carry my grandfathers 1913 gold hunting case pocket watch.
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I think the first point in that article is poorly reasoned. Someone who got into Swatch watches was able to move up to luxury Swiss watches without losing any functionality. Someone who gets used to wearing an Apple Watch or other smartwatch cannot shift to a Swiss luxury watch without losing almost all of the functionality that he has grown accustomed to having.
The second point is questionable. Yes, Apple Watch and Girard-Perregaux do not compete in the same price band, but they do compete for the same real estate. Unless people start wearing multiple watches, these devices will in fact be direct competitors. The third point is, well, I'm not sure what the point is.
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I haven't worn a watch in years probably since high school. I'm not in any hurry to start again.
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Like the other posters, I don't agree with the premise of the article. If everything goes to Apple's plan, the Apple Watch will be a paradigm shift in what we expect from wearing a watch. As Apple adds sensors and more functionality to future versions, the watch will become a "must have" in more ways than just being able to tell the time and date, which is all the traditional Swiss watch makers can offer at the moment.
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Apple watch has nothing to do with time - it has everything to do with money and connecting a person to systems (that involve money one way or another).
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Consider this: The number of people I see wearing a watch and a fitbit is non-trivial. Typically they are young CEO's or entrepreneurs. Regardless of how cool an Apple Watch is, I'll still pine for my mechanical movement watch - much in the same way I like my aircooled 911.
When the apple watch functionality becomes a tiny bracelet and no longer looks like half a deck of cards on your wrist - how many people might pine for the elegant and timeless mechanical timepiece, and relegate the connection/payment/etc. to the combination of a "google glass" and ring or other wearable thing? I love my kindle reader (the app anyway) because it lets me read books wherever I go. But for some books, there is no substitute for paper and binding.
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![]() The question is what will your kids think/do in the next 5 years? My son wears a watch oddly enough, and does read paper books. So maybe those things will endure. Perhaps this is part of a broader question - what paradigms and object will remain relevant over the next 10 years? If you look at the last 100+ years, there are a number of things that have gone by the wayside. I wonder if traditional cars (i.e. requiring a driver) will go the way of the horse and buggy? |
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Nobody wears a Rolex simply to tell time - a $20 Timex does a far better job of accomplishing that task. A Rolex is a finely crafted status symbol, a piece of male jewelry. An expensive tailored suit, an Aston Martin, a beautiful date, fine dining, and...........an iWatch? I don't think so......
Sincerely the guy that has a $200 suit, likes restaurants with no dress code, and can think of way better things to spend money on than a Rolex or iWatch. Though if I had to choose one, I would choose the crafted piece of mechanical art over the soon forgotten electronic fad.
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Thinking a little more about this -
For a small minority of people, call them the sentimentalists, I agree that a traditional watch serves a role that smartwatch cannot possibly fill. A traditional watch is a fascinating mechanical device, has a style steeped in myth and tradition, and often sentimental value. A Breitling that exudes the romance of aviation, a vintage Heuer that smells of petrol and racing, the Rolex your wife gave you at your first anniversary, your father's treasured Omega, even the loyal Seiko that has seen you through thick and thin. If a person falls solidly enough into that group, the Apple Watch won't displace his traditional watch. To far more people, call them the purposefuls, a traditional watch is worn to serve a purpose - to give them status, to make them stylish, or to give them information (time). The Apple Watch and its successors may well fill those roles, whether it be the $2,000 (price speculated) gold model for status and looks, or the $350 base alumium model for information. And there are plenty of people who are non-watch wearers, they have no particular interest in traditional watches, but see smartwatches as a very different sort of device that just happens to live on the wrist. I have a foot in the first, sentimentalist camp, and that part of me is trying to figure out if there is a way to wear my trusty Seiko diver and the Apple Watch on the same band . . . the Seiko facing up and the Apple Watch facing down . . . or hell, maybe I will end up wearing a "watch" on each wrist. But I think the second and third camps are much larger. And that an awful lot of mechanical Swiss watches are sold to people in the purposeful camp.
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I used to love watches. Didn't have anything real expensive, but liked having a reliable analog watch. I now have 4 sitting on my dresser and wear none of them. Nowadays, everywhere you look there is a device that gives you the time.
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Yes, I am old(er), but I'm probably more connected and like people in their 30's than those in their 60's. (and I'm much closer to the older demographic chronologically).
This is sort of what I mean about envisioning how this might be - dropping the whole watch is for time keeping pov. I just read this over lunch, yes, in a paper newspaper: Quote:
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The last paragraph of that article should scare anyone with a pulse. By the time that "vision" hits I may not have one though...time will tell.
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I don't this this is an either or situation... I think there is room for both the smart watch and the analog watch.
Smart watch is a gadget, and we all love our gadgets... I would have one if money were no object (and yes I'm so cheap that I won't blow $200 on a toy) but seriously are we so lazy we can't pull our cell phone out of our pocket or hip holster to answer a call or look up the closest coffee shop? Yes, analog watches only do one thing... actually they do two things, they tell time and they look good as jewelry. Shall we dismiss all jewelry because it only has one purpose? To look good? Do we need smart ear rings? And yes I will tell you how much my 1950's manual wined Mickey Mouse watch is worth, why... at action it could go as high as $150! ![]()
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I'm only 43 and just came back from a trip to Germany where I had one of my Sinns serviced. I felt naked without it, but brought another Sinn for those two weeks. When I rotate watches about once a week (Breitling this week), I am almost as excited to go to my winder box in my gun safe as I used to be when going to open presents on Xmas day. Not exaggerating. iWatch means nothing to me.
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I have always loved watches and find myself staring at my wrist even if I forget to wear it. Pulling a phone out of my pocket to tell time or put a date on a check or document seems like a hassle. I don't see myself buying an Apple watch just because I won't replace my wristwatch and I'd feel stupid wearing something on both wrists, maybe Apple should make a version with a chain like a pocket watch- easier to carry than a smart phone and honestly you shouldn't need to be constantly looking at a screen.
I agree that the Apple watch will probably have minimal impact on luxury watches.
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I use my watch in the shower frequently. I shower in the morning and need to know if im on schedule for meetings or whatever.
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I like gadgets, but have no desire to stare at a tiny wrist mounted screen when I can just use my phone. Plus it just screams dork, IMHO.
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