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Got this today, if you think guns sale are slowing down.



Hello!

In an effort to manage the current workload/volume coming into the NICS, the FBI NICS Section will not be accepting general customer service today, February 21, 2013. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, but hope that you understand our priority at this time is to process requests for new background checks. If you have a question relative to the status of a previously initiated background check, please be assured that you will be contacted as soon as a final status can be provided.



Thank you for your patience with us!



Kim Brown
NICS Section FFL Liaison Specialist

Jim

I know one thing - next time there is a Republican president...invest into guns and ammo. Then when a Democrat becomes President and the nut jobs send the price of ammo/guns sky high again - profit off of crazy!

By way of further clarification, I do, in fact, keep a single action handy for just that purpose. That, and if I'm wearing a jacket, sweatshirt, or similarly loose fitting clothing, one serves as my primary carry gun. That 4 3/4" at the bottom of the picture has been my near constant companion for going on 30 years.

I've shot too many things with hollow points to ever use them on anything ever again. Except, possibly, vermin and maybe coyotes. I've had several over the years merely "splat" on larger game, like deer, failing to penetrate enough to put them down.

Give me hard cast lead bullets with a big flat nose. Preferably big ones. .45 will do, .44 in a pinch. All big game I've shot with these have gone down without fail. I would trust my life to them before some designer hollow point of the month. Seen too many fail.

load v-max in the AR.... they are frangible. :)

"Knock down" power is a myth. Tissue destruction is what we are after - the more the merrier. Under ideal conditions, hollow points do offer that in spades. In SoCal, you are more likely to encounter those "ideal conditions" than not, where up here in the Pacific North "Wet", we are far less likely. These "ideal conditions" would be the perp in just a shirt, with no heavy coat or jacket for the hollow point to "splat" up against. We might have to shoot through that stuff; hollow points have a pretty good track record of failure to do that, so I stick with what has always worked for me. My hard cast bullets have always penetrated the "overcoat" on game animals, where hollow points didn't do so good.

I TOTALLY agree here. I tell people in the store that all the time. We wear heavy coats around here in the winter.

This too....

Rubber buckshot first shot...

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00 buck second shot..

ouch!

"mr higgins are you presently now or have you ever reloaded your own ammo?"

"yes".


mr higgins how long have you been reloading ammo?"


"a zillion years."


"mr higgins what kind of powder do you use for reloading ammo?"

"i use mega blaster 3(fill in flavor/burn rate/etc here) !"

"mr higgins what kind of bullets do you use when you reload?"


"your answer you gave above.........all kritters i have shot went down 1 shot with hard cast bullets or something to that effect."


"ladies and gentleman of the jury i clearly show you that we have a "bonifide" gun NUT sitting here in front of you." "he reloads his own "killer" ammo that creates major organ/bone damage upon entry into the human body." "as you can clearly see the wound cavity channel of a regular bullet here and here you see mr higgins wound cavity bullet creating massive damage to organs and bone." its obvious here that mr higgins premeditated killing somebody and used the nastiest round and powder known to mankind."

"i ask the jury to convict mr higgins on MURR-DURR UNO(red-rum)!"



and thats why i carry the EXACT SAME FLAVA ALL THE COPS IN THIS STATE CARRY!



end of subject! why? because thats how sleaze ball lawyers are today! if you carry any round ever for self defense................it better be what all yer LOKAL COPS CARRY! or the prosecuting attorney will tear you a new azz and make you look like a freeking GUN NUT! and the jury WILL CONVICT YOU!

it happened here in az up north because the guy had a colt delta 10MM! they convicted him and that was part of it. lawyer portrayed him as dirty harry. other circumstances ended up getting him off and out of prison but it ruined his life! it was a justified homicide as the bad guy and his bad dog attacked him.


taught to me buy my mcso cop CCW instructor who has gone to court a hell of alot on murdurr cases.


think about hot reloads real damn hard before ya carry them for CCW or home defense.


sure mega blaster # 3/4/10/20/a hundert- reloads for hunting /plinking...............but for self defense..........SAME AS WHAT LOKAL CITY COUNTY STATE COPS CARRY!



dont believe me????? just ask any lawyer/cop/judge/prosecuting attorney what they will try to make you out as if ya got "megablaster/vaporizer" rounds and use them on some poor hungry crackhead inside your house with your BUTCHER KNIFE IN HIS HANDS! coming at ya! trying to KILL YA! and you blow his POO AWAY and SUDDENLY before you can spit.......................YOUR THE BAD GUY cuz you got the megablaster round and or gun!


and if ya got a megablaster /vaporizer cal custom whoop azz race gun .............they will make you out to be a GUN NUT and hang yer azz in court! ie. hair trigger and all the other crap only a lawyer could find out and use against you in a court of law. they will send a P.I. to every gunsmith around you and dig up any records of you having any trick/custom work done to that gun.



FYI once again ask any vet cop how jury's handle the above (2) points.



hell if ya hit them over the head with a freeking twinkee they would call it a freeking AK-47! with yellow bakelite stock! the jury you receive AINT US! we know better. the jury ya get is a bunch of scared to hell 80-90yr olds from leisure(seizure) world!

shooting someone in the back...................IS A REALLY REALLY BIG NO NO!


attempted MURRDURR.................yer convicted as the threat has GONE AWAY FROM YOU!

so Uno...what do the cops there use in their AR15s?

i dont rightly know what cops here carry in their "poodle shooters" but i know for pistoles they carry federal hydrashoks


and for .308's its the obvious standard by which all others are judged federal 168gr BTHP MATCH.


for 12 gauge shotguns federal reduced recoil rounds.

and here the rounds for basic carry:

.45
.40
9mm
.38


on the subguns for dangerous hombres: 9mm /40.


i am hearing border patrol here is being outfitted with new FNH SCAR 16's(.223) and 17's(.308). and they are using the scar 17(.308) from helos on a platform that is stabilized on helo. trick stuff.

Sorry oddjob, but I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this point. I know there are lots of stories circulating among shooters about the poor guy that got in trouble for using handloads to defend himself. Upon closer examination, however, each and every one of them comes unraveled. There have always been other issues involved - no clear cut cases of self defense have ever seen a man in trouble on the sole basis of having used his own handloads. I believe Brian Pearce, writing in Handloader magazine, pretty well busted this myth years ago with real research, as opposed to gun club talk and internet forum discussions.

The pic was meant to show what a Non-lethal round of rubber buckshot can do....that is all. Anybody who has seen a western in their life knows ya don't shoot somebody in the back. The photo was the result of a riot control shot.

For decades my dad had handloaded hollow points in his bedside Commander mags. I think I helped him make them when I was 2nd grade. A few years ago I finally bought him a box of Hydra Shoks and took the handloads back to VA to shoot off at the NRA range. First shot - click. Recock hammer - bang. Second shot - bang. Third shot - click. That's why I wouldn't use handloands for a home/self defense gun. Never had a click with a high-end JHP round. Always a bang.

I went by Turner's in Riverside on Saturday - paid MSRP for a Hi-Point 995, but it had to be put on order.

Went by Fowler's Gun Room in Tustin on Sunday, they had PLENTY of firearms on the shelves, rifles and pistols - at market price. Anything over .38 caliber was $400-$700+. It's what the market will bear, yea?

Limit of 2 boxes of ammo per person. No Fiocci 9mm +P+. No 9mm at all, actually. Reloading equipment for 9mm, 40 S&W, .223 and NATO 556 were gone, gone gone.

mr higgins then explain to rick and i how this guy was attacked by this here bad guys dawg, then bad guy advances on good guy threatening to harm him, good guy is minding his own biz hiking and then the bad guy does advance (good guy in fear of his life)and good guy uses colt delta elite 10mm to shoot him.


colt delta elite 10mm(i want one-why not?) is then construed in court by prosecuting attorney as a KILLER GUN and all of the baddness of a 155mm howitzer!
and the bad part was the jury agreed with the p.a. on 10mm being a "monster" gun and he reloaded his own ammo, which lended credence that good guy was a "BONIFIDE GUN NUT!"


yeah its all scarey stuff. on top of someone trying to kill you, then you get yer tit in a ringer for using "reloaded " ammo or a gun that a jury disapproves of???? YEAH WTF????

kind of like the geneva convention and "lets have a HUMANE" war , NOT A INHUMANE WAR! WTF? WAR IS WAR! and there is NO HUMANE WAR!


i am not against reloading in any manner. hell you should see the time and care that go into match .308 and match .223 reloads here. and the groups are astounding vs box ammo and different lots. remember if yer gonna shoot match buy in bulk out of the same lot # to retain consistency.


arrington accuracy here posts his fave match reloads on his website. hes been doing this for a zillion years and can make a rifle/pistol into a real shooter. whoops i just gave myself away here, i have custom work done to my spoons and I AM A BONIFIDE GUN NUT! as i have stacks of shotgun news next to my bed the cabelas catalog brownells midway catalogs etc etc etc and then some more catalogs on top of that.


but ya know what??? what i carry daily...............samo as the day i bought it out of the box. no wazoo trigger jobs or custom this and that. and samo rounds as what all our cops carry here. i am going to hedge my bets if i ever have to be seated in front of a jury for shooting someone that has attacked me or my family, that they (jury) cannot/will not portray me as a BONIFIDE GUN NUT!

so that probably means i shouldnt wear my HK T-SHIRT and my FNH hat into court!


its that bad nowadays! so yeah if ya carry a .44 mag yer dirty harry and if ya carry a colt delta 10mm yer the devil!


WTF???? i am still trying to wrap my head around that concept.


does it matter if yer hit by a 10mm/ a .44 mag/ a 12 gauge? or any other caliber????


is a .22 rd "HUMANE" and all other rounds from the devil himself????


all i am saying is the jury of yer peers(US KIND OF DOODS HERE) and the jury ya get.................AINT THE SAME! they havent a clue about firearms ballistics, wound channels, ballistic geletin, hollowpoints,FMJ's, meplats, powder burn rates, rifle vs large pistol primers, NOTHING!


they(jury) just think yer a BONIFIDE GUN NUT cuz ya shoot matches,go hunting, reload yer own ammo, have 50-100 spoons, carry a gun everyday ccw, have custom work done on spoons etc etc etc. all the crap THEY WILL DIG UP TO HANG YER AZZ!



hell everything is a freeking GLOCK or a gawd damn AK-47 to these numnutz! and thats scarey knowing thats the kind of jury YOU or I will face!


heres some more "BONIFIDE GUN NUTZ" aka the worst of the bunch.........DEADLY SNIPERS and they all have glocks and ak-47's! LMFAO!


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