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Lapkritis 03-20-2014 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 7971213)
The OP would love to steer clear, the "eccentric" neighbor is the one poking the hornets nest.

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Originally Posted by Lapkritis (Post 7971181)
Definitely natures way of saying "do not touch." I would steer very clear... actively disengage as he is clearly demonstrating defensive escalations. As long as he lives his eccentric life peacefully going forward then let it be.

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cashflyer 03-20-2014 07:17 AM

Yeah... I've never set foot on his property, except once when I first moved here and he invited me to his hangar. 3 years ago.

By contrast, he has sent out letters to the community calling me a liar, claiming my dog is dangerous and threatening to shoot it, claiming that I somehow prevent him from attending HOA meetings, and claiming it is somehow my fault that he does not pay his HOA dues.

I now have a German Shepherd who cannot be left alone outside without fearing the nutsack neighbor will kill her, and a wife who is afraid to walk around the community property without packing heat.

Over the past year, three families have moved out of the neighborhood and have cited him as the primary reason for leaving. When the neighborhood guys get together each week to mow the runway, over half of them are packing. And many of them are running go-pro cameras on their mowers to document the nutsack's insanity.

lane912 03-20-2014 07:52 AM

WE NEED MORE LAWN MOWING VIDEOS UPLOADED!!!!!!

mowing in formation......
do a routine to music......
get a million hits on YouTube-

RWebb 03-20-2014 11:49 AM

how often does he fly his plane? and what do you have in terms of air defense capability?

Rot 911 03-20-2014 11:55 AM

Unfortunately this is what happens when you are dealing with a person that doesn't give a squat about following rules, but knows the people he is screwing with do follow the rules.

cashflyer 03-20-2014 12:15 PM

He is probably the second most frequent flier out here.
I've been telling my wife we need a ZSU from the surplus market, but she says this is just and excuse for me to buy another "man toy".

Kurt - you are right. Everyone here is afraid that confronting him will mean going to jail or losing your job. Me included.

GWN7 03-20-2014 01:04 PM

Add a couple more signs to his stack:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1395349389.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1395349428.jpg

Then follow my advise in post #165 :D

cashflyer 04-19-2014 07:38 AM

My wife spoke to one of the property owners a couple weeks ago. Apparently he had come in to the store where she works, and they were chatting about the neighborhood. She told me, "I mentioned to him that I had not seen him around in a while."

The guy owns a hangar here, with living quarters inside, but he does not live here. This was just his place to keep a plane, and the apartment was to make it qualify as a "residential property".

Anyhow, he told my wife that he was not coming back. Ever. Because of the jackass neighbor and the BS trouble that he keeps stirring up here. He said the hangar can sit there until it rusts to the ground, or until he dies, whichever happens first.

Now, I know the guy has enough money that he can walk away from this investment and never shed a tear over it. But I find it disappointing none the less.

masraum 04-19-2014 07:52 AM

I guess a community lynching is not an option.

If you all take part, who could they convict?

All in jest

well, sort of.

You need to figure out what it takes to get someone commited.

Baz 04-19-2014 08:09 AM

That guy needs a curb stomping is the bottom line......anonymously of course.

Steve Carlton 04-19-2014 09:36 AM

"If it was me, I would just kill him."

- Lorne Malvo (Fargo)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1397928988.jpg

TheMentat 06-01-2014 10:01 PM

What's the latest here?

cashflyer 06-02-2014 03:57 AM

Nobody has heard a peep out of him since the signs went up.
Neither he nor his wife showed up at the annual HOA meeting on Saturday.

It's like I mentioned in a different post.... He occasionally goes crazy and causes a big scene, then reverts back to 'normal' for several months. I guess we are in the 'normal' phase right now.

RF5BPilot 06-02-2014 06:45 AM

Part of the challenge is that we may be forced to cope with someone when their behavior is driven by cycles of chemical/physical/emotional issues, that have nothing to do with logic (or may even sabotage their ability to reason as we would think a normal person would).

This is not to say I feel sorry for the guy. It simply suggests that normal, logical tactics may not work. This is not to say he's crazy, but clearly, he is interpreting things differently than "normal" people would. (Some people who are aggressive are actually fearful and tend to interpret a broad range of situations as threatening. Much like some people who feel the need to constantly carry a concealed weapon.)

So....what would encourage someone like that to want to live elsewhere? (As in Red October, how can you make an entire crew want to get off a submarine?)

cashflyer 06-30-2014 04:17 AM

I guess I spoke too soon; Apparently he's feeling neglected again.

He called the county on me for letting my grass get too tall. One of my properties I had let grow for hay and seed, which is allowed by the county ordinances - but that did not deter him. I got the notice and had a choice of either cutting it or going to court to explain that it was for agricultural use. It was time to harvest it anyway, so I cut it all down. No loss to me.

The flip side of that coin is this, though.... I contacted the county attorney's office and threatened to sue for "malicious enforcement"**. The county codes officer was forced to come out and issue violation notices against about 7 or 8 other properties, including the crazy neighbor.

And I made sure that everyone in the community knows who instigated this bull****.


** my term - not meant to be interpreted as a legal term. Call it inequitable enforcement, selective enforcement, discriminatory enforcement - whatever. In general terms, the county code enforcement officer cannot come into a neighborhood and cite a single homeowner if other homeowners are also in violation of the same regulations. The enforcement officer must cite every violator, or none.

wdfifteen 06-30-2014 06:00 AM

Aren't neighbors great.

lane912 06-30-2014 06:29 AM

you fight well-

Porsche-O-Phile 06-30-2014 06:31 AM

Sounds like you guys have handled everything mostly right except for giving him attention.

Cajundaddy 06-30-2014 06:43 AM

Completely off topic but... does an RV-7 generate enough heat signature for a reliable AIM-9 target lock? Just curious. If a high performance single engine aircraft were to stray too close to military airspace it could be perceived as hostile...

lane912 06-30-2014 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 8141194)
Sounds like you guys have handled everything mostly right except for giving him attention.

but with what he did everyone got some attention-

cashflyer 06-30-2014 07:08 AM

Think about it like shooting down a drone.
The early AIM-9 would have had trouble, however the current inventory 9M and 9X models all have the capability. Not 100% sure about the man-portable Stingers, but I think they can also.

Steve Carlton 06-30-2014 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by cashflyer (Post 8141001)
In general terms, the county code enforcement officer cannot come into a neighborhood and cite a single homeowner if other homeowners are also in violation of the same regulations. The enforcement officer must cite every violator, or none.

But isn't this what was done?

Not sure dragging all of your neighbors into this hassle is so good for you, but I'm not involved, so I don't know.

flipper35 06-30-2014 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by cashflyer (Post 8141256)
Think about it like shooting down a drone.
The early AIM-9 would have had trouble, however the current inventory 9M and 9X models all have the capability. Not 100% sure about the man-portable Stingers, but I think they can also.

I think the Shilka would be more sporting and you can say it is for pigeon control.

stomachmonkey 06-30-2014 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 8141257)
But isn't this what was done?

Not sure dragging all of your neighbors into this hassle is so good for you, but I'm not involved, so I don't know.

I think that was the point.

Crazy neighbor filed a complaint but ended up getting a citation as well and did nothing to endear himself to the rest of the community.

Karma.

Steve Carlton 06-30-2014 10:57 AM

Oh. I thought your neighbors didn't get cited until you called the county.

cashflyer 06-30-2014 11:43 AM

I didn't "turn anyone in" - but I told the county they had to do their job correctly.
The end result was the same as if they had done their job correctly on their first visit to the community.

cashflyer 05-05-2015 10:25 AM

New people moved in next door to the psycho.

They've been in the house for less than a month and already regret buying in this neighborhood; they say that the guy comes out in the yard at odd hours of the night and just fires randomly into the woods, that he has already threatened them about their dog, and that "he's a jackass".

But yet the guy is still stable enough to be a captain with a major airline.



The annual Homeowners meeting should be next month. It may be entertaining to hear what everyone has to say.

cairns 05-05-2015 01:19 PM

Call the freaking airline. Tell them what he's doing. This guy could go all Germanwings and I would think the airline would darn well want to know about him after that incident....I can't believe a nut case like him is flying for a major.

cashflyer 05-05-2015 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cairns (Post 8609668)
Call the freaking airline. Tell them what he's doing. This guy could go all Germanwings and I would think the airline would darn well want to know about him after that incident....I can't believe a nut case like him is flying for a major.

I can't do that without some 'proof' of his insanity other than just neighbors *****ing about him. Without a lot of supporting documentation, I think it's called slander.

Also, he's a member of ALPA. He'll never lose his job.
Even if he severely f***s up, even to the point of getting FAA attention, ALPA will defend him.

sammyg2 05-05-2015 01:48 PM

I think we need to bring that mellow, stable guy from Arizona who doesn't like firearms into this thread ;)

All ya gotta do is mention an ugly brown fence.

ODDJOB UNO, paging ODDJOB UNO ... white coutesy phone ...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/517267-im-attorney-i-dont-give-flying-who-you.html

Evans, Marv 05-05-2015 03:15 PM

Did you & the neighbors invest in some video surveillance equipment with sound?

wdfifteen 05-05-2015 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cashflyer (Post 8609677)
I can't do that without some 'proof' of his insanity other than just neighbors *****ing about him. Without a lot of supporting documentation, I think it's called slander.

Claiming he is insane might be slander. Documenting his behavior and reporting it to the authorities might save someone's life.

sammyg2 05-05-2015 03:38 PM

ODDJOB UNO, paging ODDJOB UNO ... white courtesy phone ...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/517267-im-attorney-i-dont-give-flying-who-you.html

lane912 05-05-2015 04:22 PM

^^^^^^^still in the top ten threads-

onewhippedpuppy 05-05-2015 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by lane912 (Post 8609930)
^^^^^^^still in the top ten threads-

Baby poo brown!!!!

john70t 05-05-2015 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 8609852)
Claiming he is insane might be slander. Documenting his behavior and reporting it to the authorities might save someone's life.

^This.

After a few years of the OP dealing with this crap:
By now the local community(assuming they are better than average) has either:
A). Accepted and condoned his very aggressive and very deviant behavior, or
B). Is kowtowed and afraid for their own economics and saftey.

fwiw: I have been in a similar situation for the last decade, and feel equally helpless.
The local courts have proven themselves to be very prejudicial.

Scuba Steve 05-06-2015 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by cashflyer (Post 8609367)
New people moved in next door to the psycho.

They've been in the house for less than a month and already regret buying in this neighborhood; they say that the guy comes out in the yard at odd hours of the night and just fires randomly into the woods, that he has already threatened them about their dog, and that "he's a jackass".

But yet the guy is still stable enough to be a captain with a major airline.



The annual Homeowners meeting should be next month. It may be entertaining to hear what everyone has to say.

Even here in SC, wouldn't shooting at random into the woods be illegal because of the other homes nearby? I thought you at least needed a certain amount of acreage for that sort of thing.

cashflyer 05-06-2015 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 8610065)
By now the local community(assuming they are better than average) has either:
A). Accepted and condoned his very aggressive and very deviant behavior, or
B). Is kowtowed and afraid for their own economics and saftey.

C). All of the above.
Some of the neighbors just want to ignore him and hope he goes away; ie, do not want to 'get involved'. Other neighbors disapprove, but want somebody else to do the grunt work for them; ie, afraid of retribution. And none of the neighbors want to shoulder the burden (legal and emotional) all alone, and at the same time they can't seem to stand together.

Personally, I got tired of trying to rally the troops with a consistent lack of results to that effort. Now I have cameras on all areas of my home and business, and I have no-tresspass warrants against him. I filed a complaint with the local magistrate in an attempt to get a restraining order, but lacked sufficient documentation to get that. But at least the complaint is on file somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Scuba Steve (Post 8610457)
Even here in SC, wouldn't shooting at random into the woods be illegal because of the other homes nearby? I thought you at least needed a certain amount of acreage for that sort of thing.

Outside of city limits, in the county, not really*. Unless somebody complains. The man who owns the property which the rounds are being discharged onto, lives in ATL. So he has no knowledge and probably does not care.

*probably varies from county to county

stomachmonkey 05-06-2015 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by cashflyer (Post 8610789)
Outside of city limits, in the county, not really*. Unless somebody complains. The man who owns the property which the rounds are being discharged onto, lives in ATL. So he has no knowledge and probably does not care.

*probably varies from county to county

We have a similar issue here with our "Snake Hunter".

The only thing that would apply is a felonious discharge.

If he can be caught on video discharging a firearm in the direction of a dwelling or structure it's a felony regardless of other laws.

SECTION 16-23-440. Discharging firearms at or into dwellings, structures, enclosures, vehicles or equipment; penalties.

(A) It is unlawful for a person to discharge or cause to be discharged unlawfully firearms at or into a dwelling house, other building, structure, or enclosure regularly occupied by persons. A person who violates the provisions of this subsection is guilty of a felony and, upon conviction, must be fined not more than one thousand dollars or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

Heel n Toe 05-06-2015 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cashflyer (Post 8609367)
...they say that the guy comes out in the yard at odd hours of the night and just fires randomly into the woods...

Do they make game cameras that shoot in wide angle night vision and triggered by movement?

Mount it on a tree up about 10 feet (unless that height allows leaves to obscure the direction it will be taking pix/movies) on this new neighbor's property and aim it toward where they think he stands when he goes out shooting.


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