Porsche explains F1 snub

[tevake]

Well if they have to branch out into other segments to be able to keep building the sportscars then why not?

[OffCamber00]

Yes, quite a lot more than sportscars. About triple.

[livi]

...and coffee machines, sunglasses and slick golf bags..

[tevake]

And Harley motors, etc. They really are and always have been a design and engineering company.

[OffCamber00]

I still think they are a sportscar company. The pepperwagons allow them to keep their customer GT3 program alive and well.

[Aragorn]

I don't think there was a real cost/benefit advantage for Porsche to go into F1. Toyota, BMW and Honda spent huge sums of money the past decade and only had second and third tier teams at best.

Porsche in P1 endurance racing is good. Too bad the only surviving U.S. endurance racing series has no place for P1 cars. USCR will only have Daytona Prototypes, Deltawings and P2 cars. WEC should have two races in North America but where? Probably will not get to see a P1 Porsche in person anytime soon.

[OffCamber00]

WEC is racing at Austin in September. Double header w/ ALMS on the Saturday.

I expect that to continue.

[afterburn 549]

Now, if only car manufactures will tell NASTY Car not to counterfeit bodies that looks like anything of theirs ...cause their car are not anything like whats in production underneath !
YEA for Porsche !

[Noah930]

Just wait 'til Porsche campaigns the Panorama in NASCAR, afterburn.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by OffCamber00

WEC is racing at Austin in September. Double header w/ ALMS on the Saturday.

I expect that to continue.

Nope. ALMS is gone next year and so are the LMP1's. They will race at LeMans, but not in the USCR, which is a warmed over version of the France family sports car series. (FFSCS, as it should be named.)

You know, I really like Scott Pruett, but I won't watch the current series. I've switched to MotoGP.

[afterburn 549]

Originally Posted by Noah930

Just wait 'til Porsche campaigns the Panorama in NASCAR, afterburn.

I dont follow Nasty Car......You for real ? Or just jerking my chain? LOL
I cant picture Porsche screwing with simpletons like NASCAR...
Please say NO ! LOL

[CurtEgerer]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

Porsche is campaigning an LMP1 entry from 2014 onwards and will be competing directly with the car they designed for Audi. Fixed it for ya

Audi Sport has dominated every racing category they've entered since 1981. While there's undoubtedly some tech-sharing between the VW companies, Porsche is not designing Audi's race cars for them In 1998, Joest Racing severed ties with Porsche and contracted with Audi Sport to construct and develop the first of the R8 Le Mans sportscars, which have since rewritten the record books.

[OffCamber00]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Nope. ALMS is gone next year and so are the LMP1's. They will race at LeMans, but not in the USCR, which is a warmed over version of the France family sports car series. (FFSCS, as it should be named.)

You know, I really like Scott Pruett, but I won't watch the current series. I've switched to MotoGP.

The WEC race is THIS year. So, i expect that series to return going forward to Austin. You need five continents to be considered a "world championship" by the FIA. So, they have to keep coming back to the US unless they go to Russia or India.

[Zeke]

Off Camber, I guess I don't know the relationship between the WEC, ALMS and prototypes. I guess you are saying that in spite of the demise of the ALMS, the cars will race here anyway.

I gather last year's FIA WEC Sebring race was run concurrent with the ALMS. I wonder how points were distributed. I'm a little confused on this since the 2014 Sebring race is a USCR race.

[FastCarFan]

Ferry Porsche: "…from the outset only sports cars have been manufactured under the name Porsche and this will always be the case."

[OffCamber00]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Off Camber, I guess I don't know the relationship between the WEC, ALMS and prototypes. I guess you are saying that in spite of the demise of the ALMS, the cars will race here anyway.

I gather last year's FIA WEC Sebring race was run concurrent with the ALMS. I wonder how points were distributed. I'm a little confused on this since the 2014 Sebring race is a USCR race.

Milt - the WEC is the FIA sanctioned sportscar world championship. This is its second full year. It was born out of the (ILMC) Intercontinental Le Mans Cup. It is unrelated to ALMS in how it is run although both series share similar class structure and cars since both use ACO rules. The recent machinations of the US sports car scene do not impact WEC other than some teams crossing back and forth depending on what they have budget to campaign, or the race schedule (Rebellion racing at last year's Petit). The 2014 USCR rules will not be ACO regs and due to the balance of performance needed with the DPs and P2s, I doubt you'll see any teams crossing over anymore.

Yes, WEC ran sebring last year alongside ALMS and the points were totally separate. It made things terribly confusing which is why the powers that be decided not to run again this year. So Sebring is off the calendar.

For this year ALMS is a support race for WEC in Austin. Whether or not USCR serves this purpose next year, I don't know. AFAIK, WEC will return regardless 1) due to the large American market share for the manufacturers involved and 2) because they need a race in the US to keep the series status as a "world" championship which requires races on 5 continents.

[Aragorn]

Porsche will have a big presence in USCR with cars in most classes except PC which is a spec class carryover.

We just won't get to see the new Porsche P1 car competing at any USCR races for the foreseeable future because of the current rules package to accommodate the current crop of available cars in both series. In the future I suspect that P2 cars will slowly be phased out in favor of new style Daytona Prototypes that mimic the manufactures cars more closely (like the DP Corvettes.)