Cheap Pepperwagons

[onewhippedpuppy]

Anyone else notice how cheap used Cayennes can be had for? I'm seeing S models with around 100k for $15k, and similar mileage turbos for under $20k. Even though its not my favorite Porsche that's getting pretty tempting for a family daily driver. Several that I've seen already have the typical issues like the coolant tubes and cardon joint taken care of.

[89911]

It funny how these cars sunk compared to a similar car like an MDX that I have been driving for years now. I guess if you could look past the looks, they aren't too bad. The appearance of the car has always angered me, like they took a 911 front end and just lengthened it to fit an suv. They could of done so much better!

[MBAtarga]

Wasn't it Kaisen(Eric) that said to set aside around $10k/year for maintenance? That would turn me away.

[wdfifteen]

I suppose there is a market for them, but I don't see any reason for a Cayenne.

[Chocaholic]

...other than to save Porsche from bankruptcy, it served no purpose.

[cashflyer]

Originally Posted by MBAtarga

Wasn't it Kaisen(Eric) that said to set aside around $10k/year for maintenance? That would turn me away.

Dang. I was hoping to one day replace my truck with one to have an all-Porsche garage. $10k? That's more than I paid for my truck, which needs very little annual maintenance.

I guess I'll go back to looking at the FX-35.

[ninelevenick]

10k per year maintenance is total nonsense. The Cayenne is a solid vehicle that is well engineered. Get the coolant pipe upgrade, and you are good to go.

[MBAtarga]

Okay - I'm not saying I agree - but I did find the thread I was remembering -
More cheap wasserboxers...

Originally Posted by kaisen

More in 1 year then it would cost to keep your Audi on the road for 10

So how much do you think you would spend to keep an A4 Quattro on the road for 10 years?
Later on the thread I see where he states $2k per year- I guess I was remembering 10 years as $10k. But I still think $2k/year is'nt cheap.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by Chocaholic

...other than to save Porsche from bankruptcy, it served no purpose.

Sad, isn't it.

[Scott R]

I have no idea where he got that number but it costs me $187 a year to keep mine in the road. I'll need my first set of brakes this year at about $600.

[Don Plumley]

Originally Posted by Chocaholic

...other than to save Porsche from bankruptcy, it served no purpose.

It's their number one selling vehicle today. The market wanted it. I have a new one, it's a great car for hauling stuff while handling great in comfort. Seems like a good purpose to this consumer.

[Bill Douglas]

Maybe seaverly butcher one and put an F150 engine and running gear in it.

[Dan J]

Contrary to my previous opinion on this board:
The sale price is the down payment on them
Scored cylinders are a big concern on the V8's
make sure to do a leakdown test before buying

[imcarthur]

"And so, it has to be said, I’ve developed a certain fondness for Porsche’s big fat trucks and sedans precisely because they get up the nose of the purists – folks who think that Stuttgart’s time would be better spent trying to figure out how to build a durable, engaging sports-car experience rather than some donk-wheeled gin-palace with an expiry date like a lit fuse. I mean, they’re not wrong, it’s just a wee bit amusing to see how mad they get. "

From Review: 2013 Porsche Cayenne Diesel

Ian

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

Maybe seaverly butcher one and put an F150 engine and running gear in it.

Isn't that the fate of Porsches of all models? The cost to repair exceeded the value of the car, so it was abandoned or sold to someone with a wrecked Ford/Chevy and nothing to do with the drive train.

[wdfifteen]

“The sale price is the down payment on them
Scored cylinders are a big concern on the V8's
make sure to do a leakdown test before buying”

When was the last time anyone said that about a Sequoia?

"And so, it has to be said, I’ve developed a certain fondness for Porsche’s big fat trucks and sedans precisely because they get up the nose of the purists …”

I wonder how many of Porches fat trucks this reviewer has actually paid for in the past few years. It's very easy to develop a fondness for something you can't afford.

[Bill Douglas]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

Isn't that the fate of Porsches of all models?

Oh, I wouldn't do it with a real Porsche

[onewhippedpuppy]

It's pretty easy to spend $2k per year on any Porsche if you have the dealer maintain it. If you DIY I can't see where the running costs are more than any other similar German product. My Audi was dealer serviced prior to my ownership, the cost for even simple work was staggering.

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by Don Plumley

It's their number one selling vehicle today. The market wanted it. I have a new one, it's a great car for hauling stuff while handling great in comfort. Seems like a good purpose to this consumer.

And some people like to tow their Porsche to the track with a Porsche, not everyone buys a Porsche just to look at it. My friends with Pepperwagons love them..

"And so, it has to be said, I’ve developed a certain fondness for Porsche’s big fat trucks and sedans precisely because they get up the nose of the purists – folks who think that Stuttgart’s time would be better spent trying to figure out how to build a durable, engaging sports-car experience rather than some donk-wheeled gin-palace with an expiry date like a lit fuse. I mean, they’re not wrong, it’s just a wee bit amusing to see how mad they get. "

From Review: 2013 Porsche Cayenne Diesel

Ian

One of our track buddies just got one(and it isn't his 1st pepperwagon either) and really likes it..

[s_wilwerding]

For all of you folks who hate them but haven't driven them, go drive one - especially a 2011+ - they are, hands down, THE BEST handling SUVs on the road.

I love mine - I've had a lot of AWD cars, and the Cayenne is easily the best. Nice comfort features as well, and, if you get a 2008+, fairly reliable - the first gens had a lot of issues that were fixed in later years.

I've had folks from the local PCA go to the PDE and drive the off-road course in Cayennes, and they said you cannot believe what they are capable of - driving through 20" of water, ascending/descending VERY steep hills, etc.