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Zeke 07-18-2013 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BReif61 (Post 7556270)
VoPo?

Yeah, I guess you could call the 924 an AuPo.

Shaun @ Tru6 07-18-2013 08:47 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1374166022.jpg

Zeke 07-18-2013 08:59 AM

^^^^^ It would be better as a Hello Kitty.

recycled sixtie 07-18-2013 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 7556336)
Yeah, I guess you could call the 924 an AuPo.

How about a FauxPo? This thread is going from bad to verse.....

Shaun @ Tru6 07-18-2013 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 7556413)
^^^^^ It would be better as a Hello Kitty.

That's an old one Milt, no time for a refresh now.

But you may enjoy this.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-used-parts-sale-wanted/760873-bond-007-special-edition-boxster.html

black_falcon 07-18-2013 09:32 AM

Eh, I almost bought a 964 C4 recently but went with a '99 Boxster for various reasons.

Honestly, the Boxster is just as much fun to drive and delivers an equally special experience. I've had wheel time in just about every make/model Porsche has ever made, and I think the unwarranted 911 snobbery has kept a lot of good Porsches down.

Zeke 07-18-2013 09:35 AM

Or you could say:

Quote:

Originally Posted by black_falcon (Post 7556480)
Eh, I almost bought a 964 C4 recently but went with a '99 Boxster for various reasons.

Honestly, the Boxster is just as much fun to drive and delivers an equally special experience. I've had wheel time in just about every make/model Porsche has ever made, and
I think the unwarranted 356 snobbery has kept a lot of good Porsches down.

Remember, this ain't nothin' new.

romad 07-18-2013 09:53 AM

Of course we are only talking about well set-up boxsters

winders 07-18-2013 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 7555942)
I remember the same snide remarks about my 914. Now 914s are sought after and finally have some respect.

Sought after? By whom? The only sought after 914 has a VIN that starts with "914".

They had respect on the race track 15 to 20 years ago but not so much any more. And that was only if they had a big 6 cylinder in them....

Scott

Zeke 07-18-2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by winders (Post 7556514)
Sought after? By whom? The only sought after 914 has a VIN that starts with "914".

They had respect on the race track 15 to 20 years ago but not so much any more. And that was only if they had a big 6 cylinder in them....

Scott

Guess you haven't been to the autocross track much. And yes, mods like the 6 do help a lot, but a hot rod 4 will do pretty good as will a 912. It's all relative; take a car from the 914 era off the showroom floor and it will perform like a stock version of the 70's. Do some of the bolt on mods available today and the car will run the track much better.

At Porsche events a 914 is usually TTOD. They are highly modified going up against highly modified 911s and more. Really, front engine, rear engine or mid engine? You choose. If a Boxster was 800 lbs lighter and about the weight of a stock 914, it would be so fast it would rip your eyeballs out.

I raced a bone stock Boxster S with a student driver and instructor aboard in my '71 911 S on race tires at Willow during a DE. I say I raced, but it was a DE with limited passing zones. He was going to get me eventually as soon as he smoothed out his lines. And that was 180 HP in a 2400 # car against 230 HP in a 3000 # car. Almost identical HP to weight ratios.

winders 07-18-2013 10:25 AM

I said "race track". Autocrossing is a whole different world.....I won't spend all day to get less than 10 minutes driving. I did that in the late 80's and early 90's. My street 911 (Targa, even) used to give Tom Provasi, in his Parade winning 914, fits.

If I wanted to take my 911 race car and make it a fast autocross car, I could. I am just not into that anymore.

Get to the big track and the 914 isn't such a big deal....

Scott

72doug2,2S 07-18-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 7556388)

Now I know what to get my daughter.

Zeke 07-18-2013 11:05 AM

We're splitting hairs then. When people talk about tracking their car, I think they include all forms of racing. Autocross tracks in SolCal have nearly 1/4 mile straights where triple digit speeds are common. You can call it a course and I can call it a track. Potatoes, potautoes.

It takes a technical track to see the 914's best side. The fact remains that a 914 has a lot of leg room in the cabin and has very neutral handling. For what it was, it was a good car. And by using a 911 bolt on front suspension and some minor mods at the rear, the things can get pretty fast if you give them some oats.

Being that a nice example could be had a few years back for under 2K, the market opened up for them. They don't come that cheap nowadays unless it's a roach.

winders 07-18-2013 11:34 AM

No, you're splitting hairs. A typical autocross course is not a race track. "Tracking" your car does not mean autocrossing it by any reasonable definition.

Regardless, the 914 is still not "sought after", by any definition, unless the VIN starts with "914". I won't even get into the whole "Volkswagen-Porsche" aspect of it.

Scott

black_falcon 07-18-2013 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by winders (Post 7556687)
Regardless, the 914 is still not "sought after", by any definition

Checked the prices of 914-6's lately?

porsche4life 07-18-2013 12:21 PM

Nice of winders to demonstrate the snobbery towards 914s that we are discussing.... ;)

Joe Bob 07-18-2013 12:25 PM

Not much diff between a 4 and a 6. The vin, the engine, diff top gear, some minor brake mods, five lugs and the placement of the ignition switch.

Feel free to amend, there is always one asshat to chip in with some trivial point I missed.

I made a 6 outta a 4 that Uncle Miltie toasted at Willow Springs. Took me a week and I cruised it with a 2,0 S motor.....lil pendejo screamed.

The 914 is the next 356.....

BTW, there is a douche in Atlanta that will sell you a Genuwine 914/6 VIN#.

porwolf 07-18-2013 12:33 PM

I never understood the Boxter = Girly Car thing. Is that an American attitude? To me the Boxter is what the original 356 roadster was designed to be: A great performing road car that is pure fun to drive and does not cost too much. And I understand it does exactly that. If I did not already have my low mileage 79 Targa I would want one!

winders 07-18-2013 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by black_falcon (Post 7556769)
Checked the prices of 914-6's lately?

Do you know what this means:

...unless the VIN starts with "914".

The regular 914 VINs starts with "47" while the 914-6 VINs start with "914".

Scott

winders 07-18-2013 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 7556773)
Nice of winders to demonstrate the snobbery towards 914s that we are discussing.... ;)

I have nothing against the 914. I just happen to know the regular 914 is in no way "sought after" for street or track. That's just reality. If the 914 is your thing, more power to you.

Scott


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